The Jedi way was to leave him alive. But you have to understand that he had to get rid of the Sith. Killing an unarmed unarmed Aqualish thug is different than killing a Sith Lord who has control of the Senate and Courts. Mace knew he would have gotten away, and probably with a stronger apprentice, and a much larger threat.
Originally posted by kamikz
Sorgo, there was NOT an option to leave him alive. Mace had a choice, kill Palpatine at the moment, ending the war, giving peace and justice to the Galaxy and keep the security of the jedi. Or...... let Palpatine live, possibly getting killed on the way by taking him to the court, and not having a slight chance of getting him under arrest. And still there they would not be able to know what Sidious would do.
As Mace knew, Sidious was not unarmed, he just said, "he's to dangerous to be left alive", he knew deadly force powers. There was simply no other option.And if Mace got obsessed by anger he would not have such good reasons to kill Sidious, he would just let go of his controll and let the anger controll him instead.
And how come you take one picture of Mace looking mad, and say that he is obsessed by Vaapad. I can take one picture of Anakin happy as a shit lord standing beside Padme at Mustafar and say that Anakin was filled with light and goodness.
He looks mad in that picture? Damn, I didn't even think that. I just posted that for fun.
It is against the Jedi Code to kill an unarmed prisoner. I don't care what would have benefitted the Jedi Order, killing an unarmed prisoner isn't the Jedi way. His mission in the first place was not to kill Sidious. He would have started fighting if that was his mission. He said Palpatine was under arrest. Then after he overpowered Palpatine, he was supposed to follow through with the arrest. Instead, he wanted to kill Palpatine through the heat of battle. Anakin even knew it wasn't right. And Mace tried anyways.
Originally posted by Guy LeDouche
No, he saw how powerful he was after the lightning. Killing a Sith Lord is different than killing a defenceless prisoner.
That's ridiculous. You can't just change a primary principle because you're scared.
He knew the dangers of a potential Sith Lord and he knew his power status. They went there to arrest an entity. Not kill an entity.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
That's ridiculous. You can't just change a primary principle because you're scared.He knew the dangers of a potential Sith Lord and he knew his power status. They went there to arrest an entity. Not kill an entity.
Yoda tried to slay Sidious. Yoda; the übermench Grandmaster of the Order. Has he been consumed by Vaapad as well?
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
That's ridiculous. You can't just change a primary principle because you're scared.He knew the dangers of a potential Sith Lord and he knew his power status. They went there to arrest an entity. Not kill an entity.
WTF. So if you were a jedi, and you could choose from death or living by breaking one of the rules thus saving the whole jedi order and the Galaxy, then you woulden't follow through with it???
Originally posted by tdtd
Yoda wanted Sidious captured? Are you even looking at what you're typing?
Yoda: Destroy the Sith we MUSTYea bro he wanted him captured, great logic.
Did he say "Kill the Sith, we must"?
It seems you've contradicted yourself because you're not utilizing Logic, you're administering a stackload of unworthy assumptions.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Did he say "Kill the Sith, we must"?It seems you've contradicted yourself because you're not utilizing Logic, you're administering a stackload of unworthy assumptions.
Oh yes because Sidious would have been completely destroyed if he was left alive, so powerless so weak that he couldn't move that he couldn't manipulate the senate and the courts and that he couldn't use lightning to fry the Jedi to death anyways.
Of course how could we not have seen.
To destroy the Sith they must die.
Originally posted by Fishy
Oh yes because Sidious would have been completely destroyed if he was left alive, so powerless so weak that he couldn't move that he couldn't manipulate the senate and the courts and that he couldn't use lightning to fry the Jedi to death anyways.Of course how could we not have seen.
To destroy the Sith they must die.
That's not the principal.
Jedi do not kill unarmed prisoners.
Bottom line.
They came to arrest him, not to kill him. They obviously knew that he wasn't supposed to die or they would have said they must kill him, not arrest him.
Christ, even whiney little Anakin knew that much.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
That's not the principal.Jedi do not kill unarmed prisoners.
Bottom line.
They came to arrest him, not to kill him. They obviously knew that he wasn't supposed to die or they would have said they must kill him, not arrest him.
Christ, even whiney little Anakin knew that much.
The Jedi principal has to be broken sometimes for the greater good, its not something they like but they do it. Yoda betrayed the Jedi Order with training techniques when he trained Luke and he was one of the greatest Jedi ever.
Mace came there to arrest him, not knowing his full power not knowing what Sidious could do, but then when he had seen it, only after Sidious launched his lightning did he realise that arresting that Sith Lord would be impossible and not a good idea, he had to die, if the Republic needed to survive he had to die. You are fooling yourself if you think betraying the Jedi Code is a result of Vaapad or the way to the Dark Side. In this case it was the only way, the way to peace and the way to preserve the republic and Mace only did what he did, or actually only wanted to do what he wanted to do because he knew that it was the only option he had.
Originally posted by Fishy
The Jedi principal has to be broken sometimes for the greater good, its not something they like but they do it. Yoda betrayed the Jedi Order with training techniques when he trained Luke and he was one of the greatest Jedi ever.Mace came there to arrest him, not knowing his full power not knowing what Sidious could do, but then when he had seen it, only after Sidious launched his lightning did he realise that arresting that Sith Lord would be impossible and not a good idea, he had to die, if the Republic needed to survive he had to die. You are fooling yourself if you think betraying the Jedi Code is a result of Vaapad or the way to the Dark Side. In this case it was the only way, the way to peace and the way to preserve the republic and Mace only did what he did, or actually only wanted to do what he wanted to do because he knew that it was the only option he had.
That's ridiculous! Mace went to that office to arrest a Sith Lord. He knew all the possibilities and he was still on an arrest mission. He didn't come with Three Jedi Masters because he thought Sidious would be a fun arrest. Jesus.
No, Mace defied several rules to the Code in order to kill a Sith Lord.
That's not the way it works. Jedi are not enabled to EVER defy the Code because it is unbreakable.
He was supposed to arrest Palpatine but he wanted him dead . . . Badly. Plans were not supposed to change. Sidious was supposed to be unarmed and then arrested. THAT IS ALL!
Originally posted by Fishy
Yeah and Mace had no idea on how powerful Palpatine was, when he saw the lightning he realised that arresting was not an option and he did the only thing he could do. TRy to kill him.
Yeah, Lightning just scared a Jedi Councillor into killing him.
Please, Mace knew the danger that Sidious represented which is why he brought him and three Jedi.
He knew that and his entire mission was an attempted arrest, not a murder. Especially when Sidious was unarmed.