Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Can someone sum up for me what the current argument is?
I think the current arguments are:
1. Can Sora teleport?
2. How much did that heartless(can't remember the name) weigh?
3. Drive forms, yes or no?
4. How useful will Magnet be?
5. Are the Iron Boots the same weight?
6. Will Goku defeat Cell? Found out next time on Dragon Ball Z!
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Nonsense. He's not attacking, he's using a bullet's ricochet angles to take advantage of it.I have now seen Break. It's the exact same thing as Warp Snipe, but from a different angle.
I have also seen Xigbar's space power teleport. Looks nothing like the supposed teleport that Sora and the Sniper nobodies use. Leads me to believe they are not one in the same.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Hollowness.
Unless you meant that the whole things hollow thats disproved by the description saying 'mostly' bone and that it has enough body to host earth and support growth.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
If the bones on the legs are anything like the bone pieces used in the neck, which are somehow connected by with nothing visible, then they'd be relatively doughnut/ring shaped.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Except there isn't any weight at all. It's just a push by the creature, relying on it's strength, which probably isn't a whole lot.Different body as well. Sora may not have that strength in his standard form.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
There are Links that have been upside down before. And every Link makes a point of using a spin as an attack. Magnega isn't exactly fast spinning either, it's not too much of a hindrance, if it's significant at all.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Not really. I could make the argument that TP's MS is very different. A much more slender blade, not quite as thick, longer.TP is still a direct sequel to OoT, the only thing any more direct being Majora's Mask. And there are even indications that the Hero of Time's items have been saved and stored for later generations.
Edit: Hold up. TP follows MM aka the child Link, that I remember he can only get the Boots in the Adult form so MM Link never had if which means there's not 'saved for later generations' as the Link that precedes TP never had it.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Can someone sum up for me what the current argument is?
Damn Aura >_>
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
[B]I think the current arguments are:1. Can Sora teleport?
No, because it's an ability that he can only use during very specific fights with very specific boss enemies, meaning it, like all of the other spam triangle reaction commands, is a game mechanic/plot device. Canon abilities for Sora are the ones he can learn and equip, not abilities that he uses once, and then can never ever use again.
3. Drive forms, yes or no?
Yes, they're a consistent part of his ability list that he can equip, put points into, etc.
4. How useful will Magnet be?
Very. Match winning, even.
5. Are the Iron Boots the same weight?
Dunno.
6. Will Goku defeat Cell? Found out next time on Dragon Ball Z!Goku always wins. Always.
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So I just saved you guys like, 20 more pages of debate, right?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Damn Aura >_>
Not my fault you're slow. <_<
So I just saved you guys like, 20 more pages of debate, right?
Nope.
Originally posted by NemeBro
That he needs Donald and/or Goofy for. 🙂
Not for Final Form. He just needs two gais for it.... Which, since one of them is guaranteed to be in your party at the time, it doesn't really matter.
Can Xion and Roxas help? They technically are Sora from Kingdom Hearts.
Originally posted by NemeBroWhat did I say about correcting me in public, *****?
That he needs Donald and/or Goofy for. 🙂
Originally posted by BloodRainDid he explain then why Sora can teleport when fighting some people but never again before or after? Also, link?
Nomura said that gameplay is canon as he thinks gameplay and story segregation is wrong. <-referring to the teleport.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Oh I was talking about the Break command, where he appears just like Shadow does. Same kind of attack on appearance.
Break for me looks just like Warp Snipe does, only from a different angle...
Originally posted by BloodRain
We just throwing words at each other now? Then I'll use discombobulate~
Antidisestablishmentarianism.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Unless you meant that the whole things hollow thats disproved by the description saying 'mostly' bone and that it has enough body to host earth and support growth.
I'll get the direct quote next time I bet on the game.
It doesn't take a whole lot of soil to support that kind of growth. I might also point out that we do know what it's made of. All of the Scar Ghosts in the Pride Lands.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Do doubt it as the neck isnt meant to be connected to anything. Kinda odd to have the legs of a giant animal to be hollow for their purpose.
Kinda odd to have a neck be hollow for it's purpose. Why even have the two pieces there?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Theres no way that no weight could be applied. You want to wager that a 60m beast has no strength in it? Compare the leg strength of Warthog to the leg strength of an Elephant.
Sure there is. Weight, for the most part, is experienced vertically, not horizontally, you know, how Sora and the Earthshaker collided.
Sure. First thing next time I get to a zoo.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Upside down, helplessly spinning and hanging, in constant pain and has to catch out a speedster. Only way to say that he can shrug it off is for him to be proficient in mid-air combat/ deal with zero-g and have a high pain tolerance.
Happened before, not a hindrance.
Merry go round. Wheee!
Not a problem.
Originally posted by BloodRain
MS- The only minor differences are due to the graphics, [like why Link has a massive nose etc] the artworks shows them to be nearly the same. Officially one.
Bow- Minor changes like added metal. Hinted to be the same.
Boots- Dont even slightly resemble each other .__. If its the same its obviously been modified How can you look at them and think they're the same weight?
Really? So, the MS differences, rather major ones when considering a sword, are simply graphical differences. But the boots, which used to be some metal soles, cannot be despite the fact that making boots even close to TP's boots would be really, really difficult.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Edit: Hold up. TP follows MM aka the child Link, that I remember he can only get the Boots in the Adult form so MM Link never had if which means there's not 'saved for later generations' as the Link that precedes TP never had it.
Yeah, I'm really not sure which one it follows. But I think that Link still carried the items as a child, he still couldn't use them. And there's the fact that the Hero's Bow exists in TP.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Break for me looks just like Warp Snipe does, only from a different angle...
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Antidisestablishmentarianism.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'll get the direct quote next time I bet on the game.It doesn't take a whole lot of soil to support that kind of growth. I might also point out that we do know what it's made of. All of the Scar Ghosts in the Pride Lands.
Yeah given solid form. Mostly bone and partly flesh and earth.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Kinda odd to have a neck be hollow for it's purpose. Why even have the two pieces there?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Sure there is. Weight, for the most part, is experienced vertically, not horizontally, you know, how Sora and the Earthshaker collided.Sure. First thing next time I get to a zoo.
Ill give you a hint; The hogs 4 legs are strong enough to support 300 lbs, the elephants support 40x that when its only twice its height.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Happened before, not a hindrance.Merry go round. Wheee!
Not a problem.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Really? So, the MS differences, rather major ones when considering a sword, are simply graphical differences. But the boots, which used to be some metal soles, cannot be despite the fact that making boots even close to TP's boots would be really, really difficult.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, I'm really not sure which one it follows. But I think that Link still carried the items as a child, he still couldn't use them. And there's the fact that the Hero's Bow exists in TP.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis >:[
Originally posted by BloodRain
Break also looks like Shadow's port.
See, I don't know what Shadow is supposed to be. Unless you mean the most common form of Heartless in KH1, which has no teleport.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis >:[
Justice.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Im just quoting you.Yeah given solid form. Mostly bone and partly flesh and earth.
Only JUSTICE! is perfect.
Originally posted by BloodRain
/shrugs. What we dont know is whats inside the leg. And with the 0 proof we have you can assume its hollow as much as i can assume its some uber dense substance.
Then I shall just have to get looking. Or bribe Scenario with BT and Quan duty or something.
Originally posted by BloodRain
They collided diagonally. Why would it aim its leg horizontally? So weight was exerted on him.
I wonder if the Earthshaker had a chance to start pushing it forward or if Sora started out first.
link-rape
Originally posted by BloodRain
Ill give you a hint; The hogs 4 legs are strong enough to support 300 lbs, the elephants support 40x that when its only twice its height.
Okay, so that's the hint.
This is one tough riddle. Hmm...
Originally posted by BloodRain
Im betting you cant name one moment that Link's been under all that or how he can deal with it..
Iron Boots.
But under it at all the same time? Nah. But if I were capable of naming instances of each one superior to that which is produced in Magnega, well, it probably wouldn't make much difference to you.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Major? Maybe a slight thinner and small handle changes. Very minor changes. The boots arent even recognisable to each other.
Well, considering there isn't much to either sword, they are major changes on technicality. Seriously though, how is a longer and thinner blade a minor change?
Originally posted by BloodRain
TP follows child Link. All the scenes I saw has Link getting it as an adult only. As long as he got the boots after he aged for the first time he's never had them when he was sent back. The Hero's Bow was in MM..
It can't.
Where does he place the boots when he's gone back to being a child? I think he's carrying it all with him, we never have to go anywhere to get the items back.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
See, I don't know what Shadow is supposed to be. Unless you mean the most common form of Heartless in KH1, which has no teleport.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Justice.Only JUSTICE! is perfect.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I wonder if the Earthshaker had a chance to start pushing it forward or if Sora started out first.link-rape
Little Moo's shouldn't wonder too much ahah
Stomp then block.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Iron Boots.But under it at all the same time? Nah. But if I were capable of naming instances of each one superior to that which is produced in Magnega, well, it probably wouldn't make much difference to you.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Well, considering there isn't much to either sword, they are major changes on technicality. Seriously though, how is a longer and thinner blade a minor change?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It can't.Where does he place the boots when he's gone back to being a child? I think he's carrying it all with him, we never have to go anywhere to get the items back.
Originally posted by BloodRain
The hedgehog, in that clip I posted. Their ports are the same minus the blue, especially reappear wise.
...you posted a clip?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Touché
>_> Not that part... and Retribution is still above it
En garde!
And no. But while we're on the subject, your signature is still stupid and irritating. >_>
Originally posted by BloodRain
Little Moo's shouldn't wonder too much ahah
Stomp then block.
Really? Because the foot of the Heartless is a little higher in the air than normal when he "stomps." I think it was doing something else, like rearing backwards for a bigger strike when Sora got preemptive.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Boots are the best counter so far. If he had good mid-air combat then he probably fair better. Cant resist the pain from what I know.
Most Link's have either taken worse than what would be done with this spell, or can avoid it all together.
Originally posted by BloodRain
http://revolutionmedia.ign.com/revolution/image/article/707/707560/super-smash-bros-brawl-20060510074454171.jpg
http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/link6.jpg
Length is the same if you match it up to Link, from the floor to the centre of his chest. And both are as thick as his shoes. Minor chances.
By thicker I didn't mean from edge to edge or tip to hilt. From one flat side of the blade to the other flat side. It isn't even a flat blade in that area, the sword is almost diamond shaped on it's thickness area from what I recall.
Originally posted by BloodRain
OoTChild>MM>TP. Hence the Hero's Bow. When he's sent back in time he's only got what he had before he was first sent forward in time.
Items are still in his inventory when a child. And it is canon that he went back to being a child at one point during OoT.
Oh, and your OoT Image link had an error for me.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
...you posted a clip?
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
En garde!And no. But while we're on the subject, your signature is still stupid and irritating. >_>
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Really? Because the foot of the Heartless is a little higher in the air than normal when he "stomps." I think it was doing something else, like rearing backwards for a bigger strike when Sora got preemptive.
Its foot is already half way down by the time Sora counters.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Most Link's have either taken worse than what would be done with this spell, or can avoid it all together.
Not saying the spell will knock him out but the extra damage is always good.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
By thicker I didn't mean from edge to edge or tip to hilt. From one flat side of the blade to the other flat side. It isn't even a flat blade in that area, the sword is almost diamond shaped on it's thickness area from what I recall.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Items are still in his inventory when a child. And it is canon that he went back to being a child at one point during OoT.Oh, and your OoT Image link had an error for me.
Was only the basic image, one in that TP pose.
