Originally posted by bench261
so i guess its ur job to go CORRECT the wiki...the wiki matches my memory correctly. go correct it please, so ppl like me don't get the wrong idea🙄 they mustve been playing a game of checkers insteadi'm not gunna look for comics i had in the 7th grade to steer off the subject of colossus vs venom in a boxing match. the fact that ur resorting to that is obvious that u realize tht venom doesnt stand a chance.
stick to the matter at hand that venom will lose in a game that was made unfair.
i got school to attend but u can attempt to come up with arguments that venom will have the advantage in a BOXING match..but realistically it's futile
I'm just saying that if you're talking about something you should be able to prove it, otherwise don't even mention it.
I can prove Venom can handle opponents that are class 100 thats why i'm discussing this thread.
Originally posted by samisheIf I remeber correctly the comic states pretty much that Venom basically would have died if it wasn't for that stuff that gave him the quick upgrade in power which is the only reason he was even able to hang with Juggs the second time.
You can disagree with me but don't tell me not to write on this forum.
You know you should read rules before register.Colossus is stronger than Venom, Juggernaut is stronger than Venom, Venom kicked Juggernaut ass. So what's so special about Colossus?
Originally posted by bench261
the fact that he is not juggernaut..venom has no upgrade and this is a match made for colossus with no bad writing.strength+durability+stamina goes to colossus
seriously i'll stop here...cuz u got more stamina than classic juggernaut in a futile argument. realitically venom gets trashed and i'm sure anyone would common sense would agree
Realism is not the most important thing when discussing comix.
Comics are books about guys who can break through walls easilly so don't tell me what's realistic what's not. The fact is that Venom beat Juggernaut, and it happend in canon comix so i don't see any reason why Colossus should fight better than Juggernaut.
Originally posted by samisheVenom can only hang with some 100 tonners becuase he can use his speed and strength to throw around them.
I'm just saying that if you're talking about something you should be able to prove it, otherwise don't even mention it.I can prove Venom can handle opponents that are class 100 thats why i'm discussing this thread.
Originally posted by newjak86
If I remeber correctly the comic states pretty much that Venom basically would have died if it wasn't for that stuff that gave him the quick upgrade in power which is the only reason he was even able to hang with Juggs the second time.
Yeah Juggs pretty much beat him to a pulp say what you will if Venom almost died he almost died 😈
1) Juggernaut didn't beat Venom he just pushed him into toxins.
2) It's never been said that virus gave Venom any power upgrade, only gave him madness.
3)It all doesn't matter because Venom kicked Juggy's ass in third issue when effect of the virus was already gone.
Originally posted by samisheNot this again samishe listen Venom had a temporary upgrade and even then all he did was knock Juggs around a little but then Juggs under his own power went away.
Realism is not the most important thing when discussing comix.
Comics are books about guys who can break through walls easilly so don't tell me what's realistic what's not. The fact is that Venom beat Juggernaut, and it happend in canon comix so i don't see any reason why Colossus should fight better than Juggernaut.
Originally posted by samisheRead above statement.
1) Juggernaut didn't beat Venom he just pushed him into toxins.
2) It's never been said that virus gave Venom any power upgrade, only gave him madness.
3)It all doesn't matter because Venom kicked Juggy's ass in third issue when effect of the virus was already gone.
Originally posted by newjak86
Venom can only hang with some 100 tonners becuase he can use his speed and strength to throw around them.
He can lift 25 tons right well most of these guys only weigh around 1000 pounds some maybe a ton thats why he can't really hurt them and he rerally can't beat save for some MASSIVE PIS and CIS combined.
Thats it thats all Venom can do is throw them around until they get tired and walk away or they get ahold of him and beat the crap out of him.
Even before upgrade Venom was shown to be able to lift at least 40 tonnes. After upgrade he became twice as strong as before.
Originally posted by samishe
Realism is not the most important thing when discussing comix.
Comics are books about guys who can break through walls easilly so don't tell me what's realistic what's not. The fact is that Venom beat Juggernaut, and it happend in canon comix so i don't see any reason why Colossus should fight better than Juggernaut.
ok i take it back, i give it 6/10 venom...if hes carrying a vial of that bad writing goop that let him stand up to juggernaut. since this is the comics and anything can happen, i suppose galactus coming down to the arena and endowing venom with cosmic powers is possible too..i give it 8/10 venom now 🙄
seriously i give up, u must have the ruby of cytorrak that must deflect all forms of logic...u win 👆
Originally posted by samisheAnd Juggernaut's sterngth is unlimited which out beats any level of strength Venom has plus is completely impervous to physical pain.
Even before upgrade Venom was shown to be able to lift at least 40 tonnes. After upgrade he became twice as strong as before.
Originally posted by newjak86
Not this again samishe listen Venom had a temporary upgrade and even then all he did was knock Juggs around a little but then Juggs under his own power went away.
I still would love to see what Venom would have done to someone who is indestructible by physical means has unlimited strength and never tires what would Venom have done to beat Juggernaut if he stayed to fight hmmmmmm.
Oh yeah he would have eventually been beaten to death for real this time.
It really never been said virus upgraded his strength Newjak.
And in third issue effect of virus was gone anyway, so it doesn't even matter if it upgraded his stength or not.
Lets not discuss now if Juggernaute lose or not(it's a different story), fact is that Venom been hit many times by Guy who could break a mountain with a single punch. And he fought back.
Originally posted by samisheIs this the Hulk your talking about well then it is even more PIS.
It really never been said virus upgraded his strength Newjak.
And in third issue effect of virus was gone anyway, so it doesn't even matter if it upgraded his stength or not.Lets not discuss now if Juggernaute lose or not(it's a different story), fact is that Venom been hit many times by Guy who could break a mountain with a single punch. And he fought back.
Originally posted by bench261
ok i take it back, i give it 6/10 venom...if hes carrying a vial of that bad writing goop that let him stand up to juggernaut. since this is the comics and anything can happen, i suppose galactus coming down to the arena and endowing venom with cosmic powers is possible too..i give it 8/10 venom now 🙄seriously i give up, u must have the ruby of cytorrak that must deflect all forms of logic...u win 👆
You know, may be in comix sometimes happen things that people don't expect to happen, but there is still some logic there.
You need some either.
the thread creator said boxing match
it doesn't matter what venom is capable of, in a boxing match there are set RULES that must be followed
venom cant jump and swing around the ring, he cant use his symbiote
this isnt a thread about weather venom can beat colossus, which may be a good fight in an alley way or park or something, but its about weather he can punch colossus more and harder than colossus can punch him
this is basically like putting anyone against namor in the water, the rules in the thread are stacked too much in favor of one competetor
ie, tag with flash or chess with doom....
Originally posted by newjak86
Is this the Hulk your talking about well then it is even more PIS.
Listen Hulk's strength fluctuates with his rage at his lowest form he is possibly only a 70 ton person but the angier he gets the stronger he gets.
If venom managed to take punches from Hulk then he would had to have been the weakest version.
No i was talking about Juggernaut.
Originally posted by inamilist
the thread creator said boxing matchit doesn't matter what venom is capable of, in a boxing match there are set RULES that must be followed
venom cant jump and swing around the ring, he cant use his symbiote
this isnt a thread about weather venom can beat colossus, which may be a good fight in an alley way or park or something, but its about weather he can punch colossus more and harder than colossus can punch him
this is basically like putting anyone against namor in the water, the rules in the thread are stacked too much in favor of one competetor
ie, tag with flash or chess with doom....
This case Colossus shouldn't be allowed to transform into his steel form. Its also against box rules. 😄
Originally posted by inamilist
the thread creator said boxing matchit doesn't matter what venom is capable of, in a boxing match there are set RULES that must be followed
venom cant jump and swing around the ring, he cant use his symbiote
this isnt a thread about weather venom can beat colossus, which may be a good fight in an alley way or park or something, but its about weather he can punch colossus more and harder than colossus can punch him
this is basically like putting anyone against namor in the water, the rules in the thread are stacked too much in favor of one competetor
ie, tag with flash or chess with doom....
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Originally posted by samisheAnd Juggernaut's strength does the same thing if he isn't focused on doing somethin he really doesn't put forth the effort to really down someone why you think some of the X-Men are still standing trust me a focused Juggs easily beat up Thor Venom would be no contest at all. 😛
No i was talking about Juggernaut.
