Originally posted by bench261
when did i say he'd kill him in one punch? i said accumalated blows within 12 rounds would KO him...ur only weak argument is that venom could dodge is punches..hows is venom gunna win the fight then???
like you keep saying, it's a boxing match, if venom can land more hits without getting punched in turn.. how he would win the boxing match should be obvious...
Originally posted by bench261
pathetic??? ur venom worship is beyond ludicrous....ur saying colossus cant hit venom yet ur also saying that jugerrnaut hit him mad times!! ur a funny guy. and that was with the toxic waste....
Yes pathetic or: "deserving or inciting pity" if that helps you..
Colossus may be able to hit venom but it's not gonna be easy to do since venom's speed and reflexes are on par with spiderman.... and yes juggernaught did hit venom, but you're neglecting that venom wasn't even paying attention to the fight, he was just taking abuse with his thoughts focused elsewhere entirely... and no that was BEFORE he got dropped into the mercury virus.. had you actually read the comics instead of just read ABOUT them you would know that...
Originally posted by bench261
the whole thread was about who wins the boxing match
And yet you can't grasp how venom's going to win by points?
Originally posted by bench261
....not once have u explained how venom would win...
but don't take my word for it.. look:
Originally posted by samishe
You know, if you read my posts you'll notice that i never saids that Venom wins this, all i argue about is that i hate when people say that Colossus would ko him with a couple of punches. It's never been showed how exactly durable Venom is.
It been showed that he can take many hits from much stronger opponents.
Originally posted by bench261
because he CANT. if peter is pressing the fight and venom is only dodging..then he loses.
who said he'd only be dodging?
and yes.. he CAN win this fight as kontraz explained...
Originally posted by Kontraz
i'd actually give the win to venom. i mean, boxing is based on points, which is based on # of hits, knockdowns, etc, and is also timed. I'm pretty sure Venom could manage to maintain a better hit-ratio than collossus and stay on his feet through the duration of the fight
Originally posted by bench261
if he decides to trade blows, peter will expect it because its boxing. venom will have to touch peter with his fist..which increases his chance to get punched. the more venom does that the more peter anticipates it...WHY? cuz...2 options
1: punch
2: dodge
that doesn't mean he's going to be able to accurately predict what venom's gonna be throwing at him and when...
Originally posted by bench261
peter expects both..no suprises= no chance for venom.
pfffft.. what a stupid premise.
Originally posted by bench261
callin me pathetic? u do know tht colossus' durability, strength, and stamina greatly EXCELL above venom...so theres no point of bringin tht up. whether peter or not kills him is debatable..i really dont care
Originally posted by bench261
not ONCE have u gave an argument on how he would win,
And not once did he claim venom would.. again why should he make an argument to a claim that isn't his? 🤨
Originally posted by bench261
besides changing the subject on jugss vs venom or he wont die from one hit .
which i agree.
changing the subject...pffft right, coming from a guy who has gone everywhere from the toxins in the madness virus, to ben being able to beat venom in a fight you really have no place to chastize others for changing the subject... ❌
Originally posted by bench261
HOW will he win the match???
Originally posted by bench261
try answering the thread for once instead of defending all of venoms weaknesses.
actually venom's weaknesses are more oriented towards sound (sonics) and fire...
I've seen no arguments from sam that have anything to do with either...
Originally posted by bench261
ur only argument for any kind of venom win is that he would survive...which is NOT winning
again he hasn't been arguing that venom would win... 😕
but in all fairness.. peter "expecting to get hit or be dodged" in a h2h fight isn't winning either... 😆
Originally posted by bench261
when did i say he'd kill him in one punch? i said accumalated blows within 12 rounds would KO him...ur only weak argument is that venom could dodge is punches..hows is venom gunna win the fight then???pathetic??? ur venom worship is beyond ludicrous....ur saying colossus cant hit venom yet ur also saying that jugerrnaut hit him mad times!! ur a funny guy. and that was with the toxic waste....the whole thread was about who wins the boxing match....not once have u explained how venom would win...because he CANT. if peter is pressing the fight and venom is only dodging..then he loses. if he decides to trade blows, peter will expect it because its boxing. venom will have to touch peter with his fist..which increases his chance to get punched. the more venom does that the more peter anticipates it...WHY? cuz...
2 options
1: punch
2: dodgepeter expects both..no suprises= no chance for venom.
callin me pathetic? u do know tht colossus' durability, strength, and stamina greatly EXCELL above venom...so theres no point of bringin tht up. whether peter or not kills him is debatable..i really dont care
the whole point is if he can beat him in a boxing match.
not ONCE have u gave an argument on how he would win, besides changing the subject on jugss vs venom or he wont die from one hit .
which i agree.HOW will he win the match??? try answering the thread for once instead of defending all of venoms weaknesses. ur only argument for any kind of venom win is that he would survive...which is NOT winning
You should sometimes try to prove your words for a change.
Originally posted by jinzin
like you keep saying, it's a boxing match, if venom can land more hits without getting punched in turn.. how he would win the boxing match should be obvious...Yes pathetic or: "deserving or inciting pity" if that helps you..
Colossus may be able to hit venom but it's not gonna be easy to do since venom's speed and reflexes are on par with spiderman.... and yes juggernaught did hit venom, but you're neglecting that venom wasn't even paying attention to the fight, he was just taking abuse with his thoughts focused elsewhere entirely... and no that was BEFORE he got dropped into the mercury virus.. had you actually read the comics instead of just read ABOUT them you would know that...
And yet you can't grasp how venom's going to win by points?
you're strawmanning.. that hasn't been the point of his posts.. rather, he's been refuting your claims with hardcore facts. He has however explained that your perception of ben vs. venom was scewed and that's certainly true... He HAS proven that venom can take a number of successive hits without being KOed by a guy who is times stronger than colossus which is again true... At no point as he laid down a claim as to who would win the fight (though implications are certainly abundant) so why would he have to make an argument to support a thesis he isn't arguing?
but don't take my word for it.. look:
😄 wow.....
who said he'd only be dodging?
and yes.. he CAN win this fight as kontraz explained...
your acting like peter's got a spider sense or something here.. wouldn't peter "expect" to be punched and dodged in ANY sort of h2h fight? 😕
that doesn't mean he's going to be able to accurately predict what venom's gonna be throwing at him and when...
you're expecting to get shot.. it's no surprise... thus the bullet will not have a chance to hit you right?
pfffft.. what a stupid premise.
actually it would appear that they're close to the same level of durability against brute force attacks.. stamina has never been an issue for venom... have you ever seen venom lose because he got tired? I certainly haven't. and strength is only helpful if you can hit your opponent... venom's faster and has better reflexes so that's gonna make it tough for ol' petey to do...
And not once did he claim venom would.. again why should he make an argument to a claim that isn't his? 🤨
changing the subject...pffft right, coming from a guy who has gone everywhere from the toxins in the madness virus, to ben being able to beat venom in a fight you really have no place to chastize others for changing the subject... ❌
read above 🙄
Durability vs. brute strength isn't exactly one of venom's weaknesses...
actually venom's weaknesses are more oriented towards sound (sonics) and fire...
I've seen no arguments from sam that have anything to do with either...
again he hasn't been arguing that venom would win... 😕
but in all fairness.. peter "expecting to get hit or be dodged" in a h2h fight isn't winning either... 😆
See Jinzin, he never read any Venom comix before. I bet he thinks Venom is class 11.
BTW you did nice job by explaining him our arguments. But it doesn't seem he undersood anything yet.