Originally posted by jinzin
bot that I don't believe you but could you find some official boxing rules that prohibit the use of excessive jumping and flipping etc etc..?
see, thats the thing
i dont think they are necessarily "prohibited...."
looking more at the nature of the thread (I didnt start it, so i can only assume) i figure they are talking about boxing rather than just a fight in an inclosed area
im trying to look through some WBA or IBF rulebooks now.... ill get back to you 🙂
The only way Venom can win a boxing match is to outscore Colossus. Venom has the ability I guess but he will not knock Colossus out or even down for that matter. All it takes is one punch from Colossus to put Venom down.
Colossus has taken a flurry of Champions punches and wasn't knocked out either(Still armored). The fight was stopped.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandChampion.jpg
Originally posted by inamilist
see, thats the thingi dont think they are necessarily "prohibited...."
looking more at the nature of the thread (I didnt start it, so i can only assume) i figure they are talking about boxing rather than just a fight in an inclosed area
im trying to look through some WBA or IBF rulebooks now.... ill get back to you 🙂
kay thanks.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
The only way Venom can win a boxing match is to outscore Colossus. Venom has the ability I guess but he will not knock Colossus out or even down for that matter. All it takes is one punch from Colossus to put Venom down.Colossus has taken a flurry of Champions punches and wasn't knocked out either(Still armored). The fight was stopped.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandChampion.jpg
Originally posted by jinzin40 to 50 ton lifter?
how not? collosus's strength doesn't make his 300 pound body impervious to being sent flying by a 40 to 50 ton lifter...
WTF? Did Venom get a upgrade?
Colossus trades punches with Gladiator boxing style and did not get knocked down.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/gladiatorvscolossus16nn.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
40 to 50 ton lifter?WTF? Did Venom get a upgrade?
Colossus trades punches with Gladiator boxing style and did not get knocked down.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/gladiatorvscolossus16nn.jpg
and yeah venom got an upgrade look at my post on the last page at the bottem...
Originally posted by jinzin
kay thanks.
bleh
anyways, I think what I'm trying to say is that, boxing is a "style" of fighting, along with being a sport...
so, for one to participate in a "boxing" match, they should be employing that "style" of fighting
if this were muai thai or Pride/UFC, I'd say a lot of Venom's tactics would be compatable, but the fact that it is "boxing" IMHO means boxing
but, no, i was unable to find anything specifically saying you cant jump and roll in the ring
this does cover some of what i was talking about before, it is wiki though :/
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I didn't see anything unless I missed it. Does it say somewhere in a handbook or something?
the hell? right HERE!
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v59or.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v63cd.jpg
that's when he got upgraded...
Originally posted by inamilist
blehanyways, I think what I'm trying to say is that, boxing is a "style" of fighting, along with being a sport...
so, for one to participate in a "boxing" match, they should be employing that "style" of fighting
if this were muai thai or Pride/UFC, I'd say a lot of Venom's tactics would be compatable, but the fact that it is "boxing" IMHO means boxing
but, no, i was unable to find anything specifically saying you cant jump and roll in the ring
this does cover some of what i was talking about before, it is wiki though :/
hmmm well the problem is this... while venom's style of fighting is unorthodox to your typical boxing style, it's still not against any specific rules... so the arguments against his use of agility in the boxing ring is one more of preference than one of substance...
that being the case, regardless of whether or not venom's style is unorthodox to boxing it's still not illegal per say so arguments against it are moot.
Originally posted by jinzinWhen did that happen? I though I read in my handbook that he was class 25.
the hell? right HERE!http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v59or.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v63cd.jpgthat's when he got upgraded...
Originally posted by jinzin
hmmm well the problem is this... while venom's style of fighting is unorthodox to your typical boxing style, it's still not against any specific rules... so the arguments against his use of agility in the boxing ring is one more of preference than one of substance...that being the case, regardless of whether or not venom's style is unorthodox to boxing it's still not illegal per say so arguments against it are moot.
i think its like an unwritten rule though
think of it like someone showing up to a karate championship and busting out some capioeria
the title of the sport dictates the style of fighting...
but, this is splitting hairs
Originally posted by snoopdogg
When did that happen? I though I read in my handbook that he was class 25.
about a year ago.. it was the climax to venoms 19 part ongoing series...
during the series he got all sorts of crazy upgrades.. merging with cockroaches allowed the symbiote to survive an atomic bomb.
merging with wolverine raised his resistance to fire as a weakness....
for instance, recently he was hit with a gas truck and didn't even bother shrugging off the explosion or being set on fire...
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v31ul.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v23xt.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v18cj.jpg
note: during this fight venom claims that at his weakest he's at least twice as strong as spiderman which would put him at class 30... later in the fight spiderman compares him to the strength of thing.
as for handbooks I don't put too much faith in them I mean...
"It has Shang Chi, noted to be the BEST martial artist in Marvel Comics with...a whopping FIVE fighting skill.
Sabertooth has a 7 in fighting skill. Daredevil only has a 5. Daredevil destroyed Sabertooth in h2h.
Black Panther's ancestor beat the hell out of Captain America, but Captain America has a 7 fighting skill, Panther has a 5 in fighting skill.
Iron Fist is not better than Shang Chi, but he has a 6 in fighting skill while Shang Chi has a 5. Shang Chi has a 5 but BLACK WIDOW has a 6???
Shang Chi has a 5 (the master of kung fu) and BULLSEYE, who can't beat Daredevil straight up, has a 5 too?
Kitty Pryde has a FIVE fighting skill, the same as Shang CHI? LMAO"
plus you've got all these variables in multiple books (such as this upgrade) but only one writer to make a comprehensive fact sheet about a character with 20 years of history who appeared in 32 books spanning 13 different titles in this year alone....
anywho, they're almost always incorrect..
Originally posted by inamilistagreed...
i think its like an unwritten rule thoughthink of it like someone showing up to a karate championship and busting out some capioeria
the title of the sport dictates the style of fighting...
but, this is splitting hairs
it's just the thing is fighting styles are (or should be) adaptive in nature.. hence why fighting styles change over time... veno would simply be adapting to the situation...
anywho.. again.. yeah it's a boxing match but if his agility isn't against the rules then why not use it?
Originally posted by jinzinI think some people misunderstand those numbers. Levels 5-7 mean how many martial arts you have mastered.
about a year ago.. it was the climax to venoms 19 part ongoing series...during the series he got all sorts of crazy upgrades.. merging with cockroaches allowed the symbiote to survive an atomic bomb.
merging with wolverine raised his resistance to fire as a weakness....
for instance, recently he was hit with a gas truck and didn't even bother shrugging off the explosion or being set on fire...
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v31ul.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v23xt.jpg
http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v18cj.jpgnote: during this fight venom claims that at his weakest he's at least twice as strong as spiderman which would put him at class 30... later in the fight spiderman compares him to the strength of thing.
as for handbooks I don't put too much faith in them I mean...
"It has Shang Chi, noted to be the BEST martial artist in Marvel Comics with...a whopping FIVE fighting skill.
Sabertooth has a 7 in fighting skill. Daredevil only has a 5. Daredevil destroyed Sabertooth in h2h.
Black Panther's ancestor beat the hell out of Captain America, but Captain America has a 7 fighting skill, Panther has a 5 in fighting skill.
Iron Fist is not better than Shang Chi, but he has a 6 in fighting skill while Shang Chi has a 5. Shang Chi has a 5 but BLACK WIDOW has a 6???
Shang Chi has a 5 (the master of kung fu) and BULLSEYE, who can't beat Daredevil straight up, has a 5 too?
Kitty Pryde has a FIVE fighting skill, the same as Shang CHI? LMAO"
plus you've got all these variables in multiple books (such as this upgrade) but only one writer to make a comprehensive fact sheet about a character with 20 years of history who appeared in 32 books spanning 13 different titles in this year alone....
anywho, they're almost always incorrect..
Level 5 one form. That's why Shang Chi is level 5. Master of Kung Fu.
Level 6 is several forms. The Punisher for example has mastered more than one form cause of his military training.
Level 7 means mastered all forms of combat. Cap and Wolverine are 7's cause they are old f*ckers.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think some people misunderstand those numbers. Levels 5-7 mean how many martial arts you have mastered.Level 5 one form. That's why Shang Chi is level 5. Master of Kung Fu.
Level 6 is several forms. The Punisher for example has mastered more than one form cause of his military training.
Level 7 means mastered all forms of combat. Cap and Wolverine are 7's cause they are old f*ckers.
where has this been explained?
