Originally posted by LordFear
you ever heard of a little fight called Holifield vs Tyson?
Well Tyson was apparently stronger, more agile and presumably more durable but who won?
Holyfield had better fighting skills and knew how to think his way through the battle, what happened?
Tyson relying solely on his might, had to resort to cheap trickery to survive. I see this fight in the same light
ya, but tyson a retard petter not. Petter was also a highly trained x-men. he been trained by one of the top tier fighter's. he knows how to fight and he acrobatic.
He also has a big durability edge and his faster then thing is.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I'm aware. He didn't really have a showing that's impressive for an experienced fighter.
i think that given his youth and experience, those showings are even more impressive...
and nowadays, he's come a long long way from an already impressive past imo...
Nah. Just being a dork. Only way Hulk would beat Gladiator is a slugfest, or arm-wrestling match.
True...
Also, like I said, I don't think Thing is Thing Level.
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Originally posted by capt it up
ya, but tyson a retard petter not. Petter was also a highly trained x-men. he been trained by one of the top tier fighter's. he knows how to fight and he acrobatic.He also has a big durability edge and his faster then thing is.
but my point is everybody is discounting Ben's fighting edge and that alone is ample. Its not like COlossus is that way above him in the strength department. Ben could pull an upset fairly easily, i f he plays it smart
Originally posted by LordFear
but my point is everybody is discounting Ben's fighting edge and that alone is ample. Its not like COlossus is that way above him in the strength department. Ben could pull an upset fairly easily, i f he plays it smart
no he can't. thing a level 5 fighter colossus is a level 4.
colossus how ever edges thing out in ever other area making him the victor sicne he knows how to fight and was trained, by one of the best.
Originally posted by capt it up
no he can't. thing a level 5 fighter colossus is a level 4.colossus how ever edges thing out in ever other area making him the victor sicne he knows how to fight and was trained, by one of the best.
ok so Ben fighting galactic threats ON A REGULAR, and facing foes like Big G, Beyonder, Annihilus, and GOd knows what other worldy threats ON A FREAKING REGULAR doesn't get enough credibility to take down Colossus?
Ok 'nuff said on my part
Originally posted by LordFearLets not overrate Ben. Reed Richards is the main reason for that.
ok so Ben fighting galactic threats ON A REGULAR, and facing foes like Big G, Beyonder, Annihilus, and GOd knows what other worldy threats ON A FREAKING REGULAR doesn't get enough credibility to take down Colossus?
Ok 'nuff said on my part
Originally posted by LordFear
ok so Ben fighting galactic threats ON A REGULAR, and facing foes like Big G, Beyonder, Annihilus, and GOd knows what other worldy threats ON A FREAKING REGULAR doesn't get enough credibility to take down Colossus?
Ok 'nuff said on my part
you know how rediculous that sound? any one pof those guys should kill him instantly.
ya thing real good cough enemy of the state cough one stabb cough
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Lets not overrate Ben. Reed Richards is the main reason for that.
Don't misunderstand me here I did not say that he tackles theses threats alone but he is part of the team and confronts them as well. Many times Ben bought Reed time or saved the day on his smarts alone. And even a few adventures where he went solo while estranged from the FF, trying to deal with Alicia and Johnny's hookup and his appearance, he has aided dudes like Thor and such. He is a formidable character alone and don't by the Colossus hype.
Originally posted by LordFear
ok so Ben fighting galactic threats ON A REGULAR, and facing foes like Big G, Beyonder, Annihilus, and GOd knows what other worldy threats ON A FREAKING REGULAR doesn't get enough credibility to take down Colossus?
Ok 'nuff said on my part
Let me look again...
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Originally posted by capt it up
you know how rediculous that sound? any one pof those guys should kill him instantly.ya thing real good cough enemy of the state cough one stabb cough
As part of a team, man
You know damn well I WOULD NEVER try to say that he cand beat them on his own. Stop trying to show off on my account pal. As a team he has faced these threats and oftentimes has been instrumental in the FF''s victory
Originally posted by LordFear
As part of a team, man
You know damn well I WOULD NEVER try to say that he cand beat them on his own. Stop trying to show off on my account pal. As a team he has faced these threats and oftentimes has been instrumental in the FF''s victory
even has a team most of that shit never should have happen.
it old no bound's here and means nothing to this fight. your arguement really got's nothing. can thing win yes he can. Can thing win the majority? NO he can't
Originally posted by capt it up
even has a team most of that shit never should have happen.it old no bound's here and means nothing to this fight. your arguement really got's nothing. can thing win yes he can. Can thing win the majority? NO he can't
It holds plenty oh so now because it doesn't work with your argument most of thE FF's adventures are garbage?
Whenever Ben demonstrates aptitude that might indicate that he might take down COlossus easier than what people are saying in here, then it becomes PIS and cannon right?
Ok.... great debate man. Erase or discredit decades of FF's adventures on the premises that it might make Colossus look bad. LOL
Originally posted by LordFear
It holds plenty oh so now because it doesn't work with your argument most of thE FF's adventures are garbage?
Whenever Ben demonstrates aptitude that might indicate that he might take down COlossus easier than what people are saying in here, then it becomes PIS and cannon right?
Ok.... great debate man. Erase or discredit decades of FF's adventures on the premises that it might make Colossus look bad. LOL
why does thing win?
He not a strong
He not as durable
he not as fast
He not as agile
he not as acrobatic
Thing a slightly better fighter.
so please tell em why he wins?
oh and peter brighter too.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
This is a even match for the most part. But I think Colossus' physical edges will prevail in the end. Colossus' stamina and durability will come into play. When Thing fought Champion he was messed up worse than Colossus was.
Agreed. Colossus' superiority in all physical categories gives him the win here.
Colossus wins 7/10.
Originally posted by pr1983
and nowadays, he's come a long long way from an already impressive past imo...
Not really. The only big feat he's had since he came back was beating Ord. 😬
Ben Grimm actually has the better fight feats as a whole, fighting guys like Namor, Hulk, Hyperion (Squadron Sinister), Thor, Deathlok, Sasquatch (who even admitted Ben is stronger than he is), Wrecker and Bulldozer (taking a nastier shot than the one Wrecker gave Colossus that broke his ribs), Blaastaar (who he made look like a fool), Sandman (who he beat), Absorbing Man (Beat him too), Wonder-man, and the list goes on.
He's beaten, stalemated, or talked down each of those individuals.
As for Galactus, this is a guy when catapulted by Reed was able to knock him over. Not many can say they can do the same thing.
I hear a lot of crap about Colossus restraining Iron Man (which makes me laugh, since he was mind-controlled). Ben Grimm overpowered the Sentient Armor by himself using Jiu-Jitsu. He was taking a full onslaught from that thing as well.
Colossus isn't as strong, not as good of a fighter, and the list goes on. Piotr's got some decent lifting feats, but if it came down to fists with anyone I listed above, the Russian would come up short. Because it's backed by comic evidence, you CANNOT say that about Ben Grimm.
Case Close, /Thread!
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Not really. The only big feat he's had since he came back was beating Ord. 😬Ben Grimm actually has the better fight feats as a whole, fighting guys like Namor, Hulk, Hyperion (Squadron Sinister), Thor, Deathlok, Sasquatch (who even admitted Ben is stronger than he is), Wrecker and Bulldozer (taking a nastier shot than the one Wrecker gave Colossus that broke his ribs), Blaastaar (who he made look like a fool), Sandman (who he beat), Absorbing Man (Beat him too), Wonder-man, and the list goes on.
He's beaten, stalemated, or talked down each of those individuals.
As for Galactus, this is a guy when catapulted by Reed was able to knock him over. Not many can say they can do the same thing.
I hear a lot of crap about Colossus restraining Iron Man (which makes me laugh, since he was mind-controlled). Ben Grimm overpowered the Sentient Armor by himself using Jiu-Jitsu. He was taking a full onslaught from that thing as well.
Colossus isn't as strong, not as good of a fighter, and the list goes on. Piotr's got some decent lifting feats, but if it came down to fists with anyone I listed above, the Russian would come up short. Because it's backed by comic evidence, you CANNOT say that about Ben Grimm.
Case Close, /Thread!
Oh, bull.
If Colossus were 1/4 of a permanently-Four-person team, you'd see a hell of a lot more feats from him, too.
And you know I'm right.