Originally posted by snoopdoggAre those actual handbook pages? That's B.S. if it is. Colossus does not have that many edges over Thing.
Well it's hard to tell who's stronger by comparing feats but this should clarify who is stronger once and for all.Colossus: Superhuman Class 100
Thing: Superhuman Class 90
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Colossus is stronger.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Very true. Even more so when characters have solo titles.
The amount of exposure is not the issue its the substance that counts. Look at the things Thing has done in all of those issues and compare them individually with COllosus and be objective about it.
The quantity of feats are nothing, its the type of feats that matters and Ben has proven more than being on par with the best of them. Above Pietr
Originally posted by Jyppe
He certainly didn't do better against Juggernaut or Gladiator.Gotten stronger, where's your proof?
Isn't it the nature of the Thing's power that he gradually get's stronger? I don't know if that's through absorbtion of more cosmic energy, or training, or both.
For example, he was only supposed to be able to lift a few tons back in 1961. When the handbooks were written in the mid 80's, he was up to 85 tons. It would seem weird if he just stopped there.
Originally posted by the blank
Isn't it the nature of the Thing's power that he gradually get's stronger? I don't know if that's through absorbtion of more cosmic energy, or training, or both.
For example, he was only supposed to be able to lift a few tons back in 1961. When the handbooks were written in the mid 80's, he was up to 85 tons. It would seem weird if he just stopped there.
I think it has to do with training. He's worked out a lot over the years, improving his strength the same way a bodybuilder would.
Colossus has done the same thing, in fact. Along with the help from Magneto.
Originally posted by MetalmanxThough I remember seeing Ben as his human form and he was like.. A balding fat man. Not sure wether that was canon or not.
I think it has to do with training. He's worked out a lot over the years, improving his strength the same way a bodybuilder would.Colossus has done the same thing, in fact. Along with the help from Magneto.
Ben Grimm was a real badass. As a kid he was the leader of a street gang, then he was a football star, a soldier, a boxer. He was in great physical condition when he became the Thing, definitely not fat or balding.
That's why the Thing is so formidable. He's not just a brick. He's tough even without his powers. The Sandman claimed the Thing was the toughest guy he ever fought, which presumably means as an opponent he rated the Thing above the Hulk.
Originally posted by Jyppe
He certainly didn't do better against Juggernaut or Gladiator.Gotten stronger, where's your proof?
Those battles are quoted as reasons to say Colossus is stronger or more formidable, but as evidence they're highly dubious.
Gladiators powers are variable depending on his confidence, and maybe other factors. On the occasion he fought the Thing, he lifted up a corner of the Baxter Building and shook the whole building. That's a much greater feat than anything he did when he fought Colossus. Hence on that occassion I'd say Glads was operating at a much higher power level.
Thing faced off with Juggernaut while thinking his strength was amped to invincible levels, which it no longer was. Of course he'd fight differently in those circumstances. Normally he'd never just stand there and let himself be hit. As for being knocked down... is there anyone who WOULDN'T be floored by 3 successive punchs by classic Juggernaut? Yet the Thing STILL had the presence of mind and courage to grab Juggy's foot and trip him up.
Originally posted by the blankWhen Colossus smashed Glads with the pillar he just stood there and smiled. Colossus has smashed rocks by swinging a tree. A rock is alot harder than a tree is so it would take alot of power to do that. Colossus also has knocked Arkon out with a swipe of a tree. Arkon has taken blows from Wonder Man and Immortal Hercules. The fact that Glads just stood there with his hands on his hips shows atleast to me Glads was pretty formidable.
Those battles are quoted as reasons to say Colossus is stronger or more formidable, but as evidence they're highly dubious.Gladiators powers are variable depending on his confidence, and maybe other factors. On the occasion he fought the Thing, he lifted up a corner of the Baxter Building and shook the whole building. That's a much greater feat than anything he did when he fought Colossus. Hence on that occassion I'd say Glads was operating at a much higher power level.
Thing faced off with Juggernaut while thinking his strength was amped to invincible levels, which it no longer was. Of course he'd fight differently in those circumstances. Normally he'd never just stand there and let himself be hit. As for being knocked down... is there anyone who WOULDN'T be floored by 3 successive punchs by classic Juggernaut? Yet the Thing STILL had the presence of mind and courage to grab Juggy's foot and trip him up.
Colossus has taken a shot by Juggernaut unaware also and fought on to actually beat Juggy via BFR. They were fighting so hard the massive ocean liner they were fighting on was shaking as stated by Black Tom.
These two guys are as even as you can get. I still give very slight edge to Colossus.
Originally posted by capt it upforgot about cutting his skin. just a punch or 2 from colossus and byby wolvie
it not a maybe it fact that logan has defeat thing and has what it takes to take a good majority.the thign with colossus is there yet to be evidence if wolverine can infact cut colossus skin
