Originally posted by Marcus4600
Well, Venom could run him over with a car.
http://venomove.ytmnd.com/
It's a good thing to see another person that doesn't think Venom is a punk. He's held his own against the best. In The Madness, he quite literally laughed at Juggernaut't punches.
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All I'm reading is Slade this and Slade that, no one has mentioned what the symbiote can do to Slade though! Remember Venom has a natural reach advantage, if Slade physically engages Venom all Eddie would have to do is extend his symbiote around or beneath him and this fight is over, he'd cover Slades head and pop! Fights over.
The costume can instanly immobolize him unless Slade is DC's new Spiderman which he isn't! I must add that even Spidey is caught by Venom, and he's way more agile than Slade, not a better fighter he's just faster.
As good as Slade is, Venom isn't just flesh and blood the costumes grip on Eddie has completely altered his physiology, shooting him with bullets? c'mon you might as well throw beans at him... the people who argue for Slade defeating Venom aren't pointing out the fact that Venom may dodge the grenades, unless of course your saying that Slade is willing to be caught up in the blast radius I mean grenades aren't nukes but they still create shrapnel, because we all know that Venom won't allow Slade to get out of his reach he'd be all up in his face saying shit like "This one's for you kid". In which case Slade will have sacrificed himself (The grenade incident) and Venom will heal up like new, as far as the sword and the staff are concerned Venom still has the reach advantage who said Eddie wouldn't just web up a wall behind Slade and have it come crashing down around his ears? What then, am I to be convinced that Slade is also invulnerable? Last I heard he wasn't. Another thing I'd like to point out is, what if Venom just webbed up the whole field of combat? by taking the fight to higher ground? Eddie just outclasses him with his variety of powers, perhaps Slade could detect him in his stealth mode but this is just one form of attack that Venom could use, Slade can neither swing around on webs or wall run/crawl, all he has are his gadgets take those away and then what? What's to say that he can't loose these gadgets by having them webbed up to the ground? What would happen in Venom punched him in the head a few dozen times after webbing his little agile feet to the ground?
Vemom may not be as fast as far as kicks, and punches are concerned, but he's no slouch he won't just stand there and be Slade's punching bag.
Like I said if this fight was to go on for a long period of time Slade would just find himself in a no win situation and either get beaten or run away out of fear. and that's provided that Venom allows him to.
Good points, stoic.
By the way, Eddie Brock will now be a part of the That 70's Show cast!
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all i ever hear against slade is oh big dumb such and such hits him give me a break he has already fought big strong people and not lost, starfire, cyborg, wonder woman, and he can hold his breath you know also he wont just go pop and im so sure he'll be dumb enough not to move out of the way from the symbiot, or just blast him first time he see's him.
Originally posted by Mider
yeah i have i know the extended thing oh he's fast he's stronger then spidey he's as fast as spidey like i care he's not as fast as slade what makes you say that can he run down speedsters? and the whole camiflog thing wow like slade wont spot him he isnt stupid you know
Spider-Man > Slade in the agility department.
Run down speedsters? No, he can't. Don't think he ever has.
I swear, this is the worst rebuttal ever to my statements.
Here Mider: This link is for you.
This link too.
The symbiote is not water Mider, Slade can hold his breath if he wants to, but the symbiote constricts it's Victims, it can also run up their nose and lobotomize them as well... or just choke the living hell out of him while doing the the aforemetioned, Slade is only human, Venom is so far out of his reach in terms of superhuman power feats, that at best the only thing Slade could really do is fight on defense and on occasion use some of his gadgets. (Venom was written to be a killer of characters just like Slade it's part of his nature) + (resources run out in the real world, and unless Slade has some pocket dimension that he holds extra gadgets he will run out of ammo, grenades you name it), Eddie will likely paint him in the corner and pounce when the opportunity presents itself, this fight is rediculous. Cyborg... Venom will eat his slow butt. Starfire will get her behind kicked.... Wonder Woman will most likely beat Venom if she fights with skill and not pure power, the reason I say this is because if that sybiote sneaks into any one of her orifices she may be done for, face it Venoms a nasty creature, I mean if you really take time to think about it.... I won't mention what he would do to Nightwing. So yes the pop thing will work on Slade unless his bones have now become some exotic alloy, but even if they were he still has a brain that can be invaded by Venoms tendrils, as far as him just moving away where will he move to if the combat field was all webbed up, you ever see what happens when an insect walks into a sticky web? he loses speed that's what happens... I was just being nice before... Venom would have Slade crying if he went all out to get him... you can go with many different scenarios, the hit and run one would be quite effective.
Just to name one. Slade would have no choice but to run, as he can foretell what type of fight he was in from jump street.
and you have what proof of that? and oh marcus your links are not funny to me sorry, and did you ever study up on slade marcus he has run down a low grade speedster and give me a break his agility was good enough to evade superman, put him into a corner not even a whole team of super heros puts him into a corner, he has beaten guys who make venom look like a nobody.
They were jobbed... Superman would evicerate Slade... he doesn't even have to touch Slade he could just spin at super sonic speeds and suck him into a full scale a** kicking! Slade is cool he just can't hang with some guys, don't take it personal. DC was just trying to do a number on the readers. They are non for their outlandish contradictions, why do you think they keep going with the crisis story lines? Their covring up all of their blunders and getting people to pay for them. IMO Venom will eat him like crunch berries.
Originally posted by Mider
and you have what proof of that? and oh marcus your links are not funny to me sorry, and did you ever study up on slade marcus he has run down a low grade speedster and give me a break his agility was good enough to evade superman, put him into a corner not even a whole team of super heros puts him into a corner, he has beaten guys who make venom look like a nobody.
The links weren't meant to entertain you. They were meant to get you to realize that your posts never give any proof to the case that you present, and are nearly pointless. You'd make a horrible lawyer.
Also, if you're talking about the speedster that he kneecapped, he hit the kid with a tranquilizer whilst hiding in the shadows. That's not a run down. That's hide, paralyze, then shoot. Bit of a difference. Running down insinuates that he can go as fast as that person, and catch them.
He's beaten guys who make Venom look like a nobody? Venom has beaten people that make Venom look like a nobody as well. Electro, Sandman, various Avengers members, Ghost Rider, Dusk, The Jury, Rune, and so forth.
Slade can evade Superman? Notice in the picture you quote from that Superman is by no means flying at top speed. Not even a whole team of superheroes can back him into a corner? Didn't seem like the Justice League had much of a problem after Green Arrow rammed an arrow into Slade's bad eye. To be honest, Slade is a bully. He picks on children. Really tough guy. Whenever he fights someone who's talented, it seems that his "precognition" and his "team slaughtering" skills seem to dissapear.
Originally posted by Marcus4600The Kneecaping - Caught his opponent off guard with a tranquilizer.
An off guard opponent moving at superhuman speeds.[quote]Catching Kid Flash - Inconsistent with the fact that Batman and Nightwing can tag him. Also, he moved with the momentum of the blow, which is basic strategy when facing a quicker opponent.
Post power up Slade is untouchable by anyone in the batfamily unless he allows otherwise.e Batgirl & NightWing.
Slade has hit/dodged/chased down almost every member of the flash family there is. He chased down KidFlash and caught him AND blasted him. He even said (pre-power up), that his reflexes make him faster than any of the Titans, even Kid Flash.
Anti-Tank Gun healing - Not impressed. Those rounds wouldn't even phase Venom.
The fact he can see things slower - It's the inspiration for Max Payne's bullet time. That is what gives him an advantage, but 90% brain capacity doesn't do that for you. I'm a science nerd, and I know these things. However, years of combat training will tell you what to do and when, which is how he can gain the upper hand.
Real world science means shit to comics. In comics, Slade can think and calculate at superhuman speeds because of his superhuman mental capacity. He reacts instantaneous to his superhuman thinking speed.
Taking out four people before they can react - Punisher has done the same thing. Not impressed.
Hitting Flash with the staff blast, then tripping him up- Flash had his back to Slade, which was a cheap shot. When Slade tripped him, Slade made sure there was 1 was for Flash to go, and that was where he was. That's not precognition. That's stacking the odds in your favor. Totally different.
Again, pre power-up. It wasn't a cheap shot, he hit Flash and then caught Flash off guard.
Snuffing Wonder Woman - Captain America has done the same thing to people the calibur of Wonder Woman, so it's expected considering the two are on the same level.
Oh, this was pre-power up, too.
Blowing up a helicopter - That's low power. Good for him. Venom has been hit with full blasts of Iron Man's repulsor rays, which make Slade's staff look like dirt.[/wuote]
Pre-power up. Also, that blast was 600x less powerful than the blasts from his new staff.[quote]Slade evading Superman with his agility - To be honest, Venom could pull off those moves with his eyes closed.
The Identity Crisis fight - Complete PIS! Plot Induced Stupidity! A Green Lantern with a Green Lantern Ring should have ripped Slade into pieces twenty times over! His first instinct wouldn't be to punch!
The Nightwing Fight - This is more his capacity.
This fight would be good, but Venom couldn't handle Slade's fire power, nor could he catch someone with superior speed, skill and intelligence.
Venom loses but not as bad as Wolverine.
7/10 Slade.
Pretty good arguments... I just dont like the lack of accountability that DC uses with Slade's fights. Outspeeding someone in the Flash family just doesnt make sense even to a five year old. Like people have mentioned before, If u get really creative with Venon i.e. doing labotamies on people, then Slade would be in for some trouble. Slade is certainly more sophisticated and should beat Venom if he keeps his distance, close quarters though, Venom will give him the business.
An offguard opponent moving at superhuman speeds? The kid was just standing there! Also, don't call what I say bullshit. I know more about Venom than you could hope for. The guy took a load of grenades and white phosphorus. Do you have any idea how hot white phosphorus burns? Evidently not. Also, the symbiote stops any type of rounds that hit it. The only thing you can do is pierce it at close range. The thing can take hits from The Hulk and Juggernaut and be fine. It's a bit more durable than Deathstroke the Jobbernator. You can pre-powerup claim all you want, but you've got no backing, and even with it, Slade can't do crap to Venom. Don't call me a liar, because the word of an idiot with a hemp leaf for his avatar doesn't mean much.
Venom still wins
Originally posted by Marcus4600Don't get defensive, it's not your fault.
An offguard opponent moving at superhuman speeds? The kid was just standing there! Also, don't call what I say bullshit. I know more about Venom than you could hope for. The guy took a load of grenades and white phosphorus. Do you have any idea how hot white phosphorus burns? Evidently not. Also, the symbiote stops any type of rounds that hit it. The only thing you can do is pierce it at close range. The thing can take hits from The Hulk and Juggernaut and be fine. It's a bit more durable than Deathstroke the Jobbernator. You can pre-powerup claim all you want, but you've got no backing, and even with it, Slade can't do crap to Venom. Don't call me a liar, because the word of an idiot with a hemp leaf for his avatar doesn't mean much.
Venom still wins
I know tons about Venom, I know everything about Slade, and Venom can't handle it.
Talk about PIS:
Venom beats Electro: Hailed as one of the worst written comics in history(seriously, read spiderfan.org), Venom blindsides Electro. Venom attacks Electro but Electro doesn't absolutley Zero to defend himself. Nothing. Not blasts no heat, not even a punch.
Venom bites Sandman😛IS to the extreme. Sandman can shift his body like play dough, anything Venom could do would be undone in a half second. Sandman has take on Hulk, he's had his body blown apart and reformed in seconds, but Venom bites him and wins? Not only is it bad writing, it makes no sense.
Slade has hit Kidflash with his staff during a blits, same with Wally, same with Hal Jordan. He's hit Superman as well.
None of them just stood there. Slade is just simply fast enough to hit speedsters...pre-power up.
When he chased down Kid Flash, he was only able to hang with him for a few steps, which is still fast. When KF started to out-run him, Slade simply aimed and shot the speeding Kid Flash even though KF was a blur to everyone else.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Well, Venom could run him over with a car.
http://venomove.ytmnd.com/
It's a good thing to see another person that doesn't think Venom is a punk. He's held his own against the best. In The Madness, he quite literally laughed at Juggernaut't punches.
😆 You're getting funnier everyday.