Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Started by FistOfThe North32 pages

I was trying to find a youtube video that had a good Bush speech, just to see if there ever was one, and i could not find a single one. And i wasn't surprised either. Such a shame. Aren't U.S. Presidents known for delivering some of histories greatest qoutes/speeches?

Can you imagine W. Bush, A. Lincoln and G. Washington having a political debate amongst each other over dinner, how would Bush do? lol. Can you imagine what he'd say?

I remember i made this thread a while back and i thought i'd summon it cause i just wanted to add that Bush is not only the worse, and most conniving American President the U.S. has ever elected, he's also the dumbest. Is it that he's just only inarticulate but with some intelligence or is he just plain dumb all together? Don't know, he seems like a regular guy. Just too regular for the Presidency. You be the judge. Look at this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMy_7jLAok8&feature=related

Re: Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Why or why don't you think so?

Yes, Bush sucks

Wouldn't calling Bush "conniving" imply that he's not the dumbest?

Just food for thought, n*gger.

Re: Re: Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Yes, Bush sucks

Time will tell.

Mike Gravel says he's the worst, and I agree. Basically, every "problem" dubya tried to fix, he made it worse.

I say "problem" because most ofthem weren't even problems. Examples: Economy, Iraq, Clinton's policy.

You mean when we were heading into a recession in 2000? Or how the entire Middle East is a cluster**** that will eventually be far better off now that Huissein's mouldering in the grave?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Mike Gravel says he's the worst, and I agree. Basically, every "problem" dubya tried to fix, he made it worse.

I say "problem" because most ofthem weren't even problems. Examples: Economy, Iraq, Clinton's policy.

Do you know any thing about other US presidents? There have been a few loosers that make Bush look really good.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
You mean when we were heading into a recession in 2000? Or how the entire Middle East is a cluster**** that will eventually be far better off now that Huissein's mouldering in the grave?
Saddam wasn't a threat to America, not America's business, or legit to start a war. Besides, Iraq is in a horrible situation.

The recession was a small problem, Bush ****ed up, no matter how you looked at it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you know any thing about other US presidents? There have been a few loosers that make Bush look really good.
Bush 41 and Reagan were shit, and so were a lot others, but none of them did poorly as Dubya. These 3 all messed up in the same poisitions, but Dubya did it the worst, or to them, the best.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Saddam wasn't a threat to America, not America's business, or legit to start a war. Besides, Iraq is in a horrible situation.

The recession was a small problem, Bush ****ed up, no matter how you looked at it.

You are absolutely wrong about that. Iraq was under a treaty that they had broken at least 17 time. We should have gone in after the first braking of that treaty, but that would have been Clinton's war.

My memory is a little foggy.

Which president got impeached again for lieing to the public?

Was it Bush..no no that wasnt it.

Cli..cli...any help here?

I'd throw in Woodrow, Ronald, Harry and Franklin before Bush.

Whomever suggested Iraq posed a threat to the United States of America, excuse me while I go laugh for a couple minutes.

Originally posted by KidRock
My memory is a little foggy.

Which president got impeached again for lieing to the public?

Was it Bush..no no that wasnt it.

Cli..cli...any help here?


Bush should have gotten impeached.

His lie and deception was far worse than Clinton's.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are absolutely wrong about that. Iraq was under a treaty that they had broken at least 17 time. We should have gone in after the first braking of that treaty, but that would have been Clinton's war.

Yet we went there because they were "harboring terrorists."

Don't confuse the points of the Bush administration. It's all bullshit but let's put it in correct context.

Originally posted by chithappens
Yet we went there because they were "harboring terrorists."

Don't confuse the points of the Bush administration. It's all bullshit but let's put it in correct context.

What is all bullshit?

The Gulf war is bullshit?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War

Originally posted by lord xyz
Saddam wasn't a threat to America, not America's business, or legit to start a war. Besides, Iraq is in a horrible situation.

Can you not read? Did I not say "eventually"? Furthermore, I don't care if Saddam wasn't "America's business"--he deserved to die.

The recession was a small problem, Bush ****ed up, no matter how you looked at it.

Please explain how Bush screwed it up.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
[B]Can you not read? Did I not say "eventually"? Furthermore, I don't care if Saddam wasn't "America's business"--he deserved to die.
The Iraqi people didn't.

There are countless dictators out there that we don't give a shit what they do. ****, we even prop up one and are friends with another.

And we shouldn't. What's your point?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
And we shouldn't. What's your point?

Okay, you skipped over the part about Iraqi's dying...

Okay, Saddam was bad. Sure. But that doesn't mean we invade a country to go kill him when he poses absolutely no threat to the United States' national security.

If we're going on the principal of "he deserved to die"; then why aren't we invading every country that has a dictator and killing them?

Iraqis dying--that's too bad. But would less have died if Saddam and his vile kin were allowed to continue ruling?

If we're going on the principal of "he deserved to die"; then why aren't we invading every country that has a dictator and killing them?

Because of politics. Also, dictator != malevolent dictator.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Iraqis dying--that's too bad. But would less have died if Saddam and his vile kin were allowed to continue ruling?

Because of politics. Also, dictator != malevolent dictator.


Well, I know at least Iraq wouldn't have turned into a terrorist haven because Saddam did not tolerate terrorism and hated bin Laden.

Our being there just displaced a shitload of Iraqis and killed a shitload more. Plus, the sanctions and bombing of Iraq prior to the actual invasion didn't boad too well for the Iraqis.

Not to mention the fact that the United States gave Saddam the gas he ended up using on his own people...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are absolutely wrong about that. Iraq was under a treaty that they had broken at least 17 time. We should have gone in after the first braking of that treaty, but that would have been Clinton's war.
There shouldn't have been a treaty at all. Cheney himself in 94 said if they went into Iraq it will be a horrible situation, there would be no one on their side, it would take a long time to revover etc. Also, Clinton knew it was unpopular and the very same people that are for the war now, said it would be bad back then, I recall Clinton said this in one of his interviews with the press.

Originally posted by chithappens
Yet we went there because they were "harboring terrorists."

Don't confuse the points of the Bush administration. It's all bullshit but let's put it in correct context.

Exactly! The reasons were "Harbouring terrorists, ties with Al Qaeda and WMD" all of which are false. Saddam and Al Qaeda hated eachother for one, so if you think about it, America did Osama a favour.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Can you not read? Did I not say "eventually"? Furthermore, I don't care if Saddam wasn't "America's business"--he deserved to die.

Please explain how Bush screwed it up.

Okay lets talk about this eventual improvement. When will that be? Furthurmore, I believe anyone else (McCain or Gore or Bradley) could've handled it better.

Well, by looking at graphs, everything dropped faster when Bush took over in 01, he must've been doing something wrong.