Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, it may have been wrong or even immoral, but it was not unlawful. If the war had been unlawful there would have been charges brought up in international court and a finding that states the war was unlawful. There is not such statement.

Originally posted by chithappens
Knowingly lying about different facts (and in some cases all out made up stuff) to justify a war to the international community IS UNLAWFUL.
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No, there is no international law having to do with lying, beyond what is written in treaties. If what you say is true, then WWII was illegal. The president of the US told the world a lie just before D-day. It is common for leaders to lie to the public during a time of war to insure the success on the battle field.

Originally posted by BigRed
If it is against the Constitution, it is unlawful.

We are talking about international law. The constitution only says who has the authority to go to war, and that is the congress of the US. We are not currently at war, and the Iraq war is a UN and Nato war.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No, there is no international law having to do with lying, beyond what is written in treaties. If what you say is true, then WWII was illegal. The president of the US told the world a lie just before D-day. It is common for leaders to lie to the public during a time of war to insure the success on the battle field.

As well as FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to happen.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
As well as FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to happen.

That is very possible. It may have been the only way to insure susses.

It WAS the only way. On December 6th the nation was divided over going to war, but all that changed the next morning.

Originally posted by BigRed
If it is against the Constitution, it is unlawful.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It WAS the only way. On December 6th the nation was divided over going to war, but all that changed the next morning.

What was the outcome of 9/11? Did it serve the peple or the greater good, or did it serve the major corporations that actually benefitted?

Originally posted by Devil King
What was the outcome of 9/11? Did it serve the peple or the greater good, or did it serve the major corporations that actually benefitted?

FDR: "Everybody grab a gun and put on a uniform!"

Bush: "Put a flag on your car and spend big!"

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
FDR: "Everybody grab a gun and put on a uniform!"

Bush: "Put a flag on your car and spend big!"

That's exactly what I'm talking about: one has substance, the other has none.

(By the way, this is where I expect the conspiracy theorist to jump in and supply some contradictory evidence.) But they never seem to.

Oh, I firmly believe that FDR knew about it, but let it happen anyways.

The Japanese actually viewed PH as a failure because it's objective was to destroy the ACC's, which were conveniently out on an "exercise run" many miles away.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Oh, I firmly believe that FDR knew about it, but let it happen anyways.

The Japanese actually viewed PH as a failure because it's objective was to destroy the ACC's, which were conveniently out on an "exercise run" many miles away.

ACC's?

Air craft carriers.

You know...those long ships where planes take off from?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Air craft carriers.

You know...those long ships where planes take off from?

I got ya.

The USS Flagg rocks. According to some, it's the best G.I Joe toy, EVER!

I almost convinced my parents into buying that; I got the hovercraft instead. Go Joe!

Originally posted by Robtard
I almost convinced my parents into buying that; I got the hovercraft instead. Go Joe!

YO Joe, dear, YO Joe.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Oh, I firmly believe that FDR knew about it, but let it happen anyways.

The Japanese actually viewed PH as a failure because it's objective was to destroy the ACC's, which were conveniently out on an "exercise run" many miles away.

It is funny how all the really important ships like ACC were all out to sea that day.

Originally posted by Devil King
YO Joe, dear, YO Joe.

I could claim that it's late and I'm tired, that the G is right next to the Y or any number of weaseling tactics as witnessed on this board. I'll just say it was a stupid error and I really should know better, as I was a GI Joe nut as a kid.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is funny how all the really important ships like ACC were all out to sea that day.

Or maybe just coincidence.

No. Yes he's bad, but worst ever? Hard to say

Originally posted by Robtard
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