Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No one would get it.You are assuming that I am driving the going in circles. I am only answering question from people who can't get it.
I've shown you fact after fact of why the Iraq War is breaking international law and you continue to defy fact and go around in circles with me. You can play the card of denial or ignorance all you want. But facts don't lie.
Originally posted by chithappens
That is not directly relevant to the events of how we got to Iraq so it's a moot point (by getting there I mean the reasons the administration gave for invasion).
The administration didn't want us to know the real reason, and we still don't know the real reason, but that is not a bad reflection on the Bush administration. No matter who the president was, the choices would have been the same.
Originally posted by BigRed
I don't think you get it to be honest.I've shown you fact after fact of why the Iraq War is breaking international law and you continue to defy fact and go around in circles with me. You can play the card of denial or ignorance all you want. But facts don't lie.
I simply disagree with you. If the Iraq war was illegal, there would be a judgment from an international court. Perhaps I missed it. Can you point out the judgment from an international court for me?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I simply disagree with you. If the Iraq war was illegal, there would be a judgment from an international court. Perhaps I missed it. Can you point out the judgment from an international court for me?
Hopefully though, it will come to pass because they are hoping to review it more in 2009. So who knows...
The Iraq War is illegal. That's not opinion. That's a fact.
Originally posted by BigRed
Just because he hasn't been tried in court yet doesn't negate the notion that he did something illegal. A lot of has to do with the Democrats being pussies and not using oversight and review to actually investigate what Bush has done wrong and impeach and bring him to court and so forth. Primarily also because the ICC lacks the jurisdiction to do it. Why do you think Bush refused to join the ICC? It would have placed him within jurisdiction of the ICC and thus under scrutiny and possible prosecution.Hopefully though, it will come to pass because they are hoping to review it more in 2009. So who knows...
The Iraq War is illegal. That's not opinion. That's a fact.
So, is a person or institution guilty before being proved innocent or innocent before being proved guilty?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, is a person or institution guilty before being proved innocent or innocent before being proved guilty?
It's like with cops in catching a murderer. They caught him. They are pretty damn sure he killed someone. But the guy is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law and gets an attorny and all that stuff.
Originally posted by BigRed
By all intents and purposes, Bush did something illegal. I can't lable him guilty yet though because I do believe in the mantra of "innocent until proven guilty." I'll leave the guilty part up to a judge.It's like with cops in catching a murderer. They caught him. They are pretty damn sure he killed someone. But the guy is innocent until proven guilty by a court of law and gets an attorny and all that stuff.
But you said he was guilty. I'm glad you have changed your position.
The most you can say is that you think a crime has been committed. I have no argument about that; you might be right.
The problem is, as I see it, there are people who spread lies to gain political power. Lies like, the US is guilty of braking international law. Then people like your self, go around repeating that information like it was fact, when it is not.
Have a good day.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But you said he was guilty. I'm glad you have changed your position.The most you can say is that you think a crime has been committed. I have no argument about that; you might be right.
The problem is, as I see it, there are people who spread lies to gain political power. Lies like, the US is guilty of braking international law. Then people like your self, go around repeating that information like it was fact, when it is not.
Have a good day.
It is a fact. Do some research. Look into it. If it goes against the UN, the UN members say it; how can it not be fact? Tell me that please.
You have yet to present to me why it hasn't broken international law.
Originally posted by chithappens
This is all about realpolitik.If I **** a woman who is not my wife, it is cheating. She doesn't have to know to confirm that.
😆 No, it would be more like me going around and telling people that you cheated on your wife, so I can have your job. 😉
The Democrats are saying that Bush broke the law so they can have his job. BTW the Republicans do the same thing, when the shoe is on the other foot.
Originally posted by BigRed
Quote me where I said Bush was guilty. I don't recall saying that...It is a fact. Do some research. Look into it. If it goes against the UN, the UN members say it; how can it not be fact? Tell me that please.
You have yet to present to me why it hasn't broken international law.
Sorry, but I am done with you. 😄
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 No, it would be more like me going around and telling people that you cheated on your wife, so I can have your job. 😉The Democrats are saying that Bush broke the law so they can have his job. BTW the Republicans do the same thing, when the shoe is on the other foot.
By virture of common sense, it is against international law.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sorry, but I am done with you. 😄
Originally posted by BigRedSorry, my school never taught me about Iraq or the middle east.
Well to be fair, he has a point. If you didn't know of Iraq before 2002/2003, something is wrong with you.That or the education system really is going down the drain.
And for the record, a good portion of Americans still couldn't tell you where Iraq is on a map.