Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats disinformation you have been hearing.Bush signed it without the consent of congress unbeknowest to them.yep.

The disinformation, in this case, is what you are saying.

I saw the vote on TV, and heard some congressmen complain about not being given time to read the bill. If I had been that person, I would have voted no, if they did not let me read it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The disinformation, in this case, is what you are saying.

I saw the vote on TV, and heard some congressmen complain about not being given time to read the bill. If I had been that person, I would have voted no, if they did not let me read it.

thanks for proving my point for me.when I said it was passed unbeknowest to them,what i meant was many of them said later on that they regretted passing it because like you said,they didnt have time to read it all and if they had,they never would have done so knowing it infringes on the rights of the american people.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thanks for proving my point for me.when I said it was passed unbeknowest to them,what i meant was many of them said later on that they regretted passing it because like you said,they didnt have time to read it all and if they had,they never would have done so knowing it infringes on the rights of the american people.

Thanks for proving my point. 😆 You just said "they regretted passing it". Anyone who will vote for something as important as the Patriot Act, and not read it first, should not be allowed to be in office.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Thanks for proving my point. 😆 You just said "they regretted passing it". Anyone who will vote for something as important as the Patriot Act, and not read it first, should not be allowed to be in office.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
No arguments there.for once I am in agreement with you. 😄 most people in congress are either corrupt or incompetent unfortunately.

The only difference is that I hold the House and Congress to blame. Strong arming is just a political tactic, and I don't blame Bush for using a political tactic.

I blame it all on greed and mental illness.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I blame it all on greed and mental illness.

It's not just the Democrats problem. 😉

No, it's the whole world. Well, except for me.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
No, it's the whole world. Well, except for me.

So, it is your fault? 😱

No. I'm the voice of Wisdom, yet no one listens......makes me cry at night... 🙁 😂

Originally posted by Deja~vu
No. I'm the voice of Wisdom, yet no one listens......makes me cry at night... 🙁 😂

What? 😕

Stop that. Shaky U.....shaky u real good and give you a tumor...hahahaha

Crisis and the economic impact...
If you do the math based on the statistics of how much economic activity is generated per dollar spent for various government incentives and programs, the whole economic crisis we're in is the economy contracting based on their ****ing subsidies and tax cuts. Statistically, rich people and corporations don't spend money and don't invest in america. Rich people shove their money into tax shelters and swiss bank accounts, and the chinese stockmarket. Based on one of the economic studies I've read, cutting corporate and upper class taxes generates 20 cents of economic activity for every dollar the governments spends/loses on the cut. Compare that with $1.40 for every dollar spent on food stamps or $1.35 for healthcare benefits or $1.17 for small business tax incentives (i.e. write offs, not subsidies). Now if you only take the 150 billion dollar tax cut, and the fact that none of it was in the form of any new write-offs or incentives but just a whopping shifting of the burden onto others, that lovely little stimulus early on generated only 30 billion dollars of economic activity. That's called Kleptocracy. And even though Reagan started the policy, considering how awful our economic situation is in right now, i think it's yet another reason Bush deserves the title of worst president.
But here's an idea on how to set things right. Seize the assets of the families of the entire Bush cabinet, auction everything off, and then redistribute the money to every american taxpayer making under 200k as an economic bailout. It's not communism, its a stimulus package that also functions as victim's compensation and reparations due to how unsafe his administration's policies have made all of us and because he and his buddies literally stole from american coffers.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Crisis and the economic impact...
If you do the math based on the statistics of how much economic activity is generated per dollar spent for various government incentives and programs, the whole economic crisis we're in is the economy contracting based on their ****ing subsidies and tax cuts. Statistically, rich people and corporations don't spend money and don't invest in america. Rich people shove their money into tax shelters and swiss bank accounts, and the chinese stockmarket. Based on one of the economic studies I've read, cutting corporate and upper class taxes generates 20 cents of economic activity for every dollar the governments spends/loses on the cut. Compare that with $1.40 for every dollar spent on food stamps or $1.35 for healthcare benefits or $1.17 for small business tax incentives (i.e. write offs, not subsidies). Now if you only take the 150 billion dollar tax cut, and the fact that none of it was in the form of any new write-offs or incentives but just a whopping shifting of the burden onto others, that lovely little stimulus early on generated only 30 billion dollars of economic activity. That's called Kleptocracy. And even though Reagan started the policy, considering how awful our economic situation is in right now, i think it's yet another reason Bush deserves the title of worst president.
But here's an idea on how to set things right. Seize the assets of the families of the entire Bush cabinet, auction everything off, and then redistribute the money to every american taxpayer making under 200k as an economic bailout. It's not communism, its a stimulus package that also functions as victim's compensation and reparations due to how unsafe his administration's policies have made all of us and because he and his buddies literally stole from american coffers.

Very interesting data. Do you have a resource for that? If you don't or your resource isn't credible then your entire post can be considered rubbish. If it's true, those are very awesome points.

Come to think of it, unless I'm mistaken it was Economist Paul Krugmann interpreting economic data on a radio show, probably the Thom Hartman Program if I'm not mistaken.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Come to think of it, unless I'm mistaken it was Economist Paul Krugmann interpreting economic data on a radio show, probably the Thom Hartman Program if I'm not mistaken.

Link?

Cause I'd REALLY like o bring these points up to my rabid GOP coworkers and family members IF they are legit.

I'd try going to his website and listening to the show over the past week. You gotta understand, I read and listen to A LOT, especially since I'm probably going to start an independent political column for examiner.com (plug, help put food on my table), and I really do need to keep my sources straight. The Sun Chronicle quotes similar ideas from Rep. James McGovern and he cites the Congressional Budget Office and the Department of Agriculture as his sources, so if you want to give exact numbers, I would cite the Congressional Budget Office since that logically would be the only way to get clear numbers on this kind of stuff

Pretty damning stuff if so.

Along with things like Enron and Iraq, which both may have had on effect American domestic and then in the World economies.

It is damning but it's been happening for 29 years. It's basically quantifiable evidence of the failure of trickle down and depending on who your talking about it's either malice or a misunderstanding of how economics work.

Will he be like Carter and Clinton, really visible and always appearing on talk shows and speaking at universities?

Or will he be a recluse, and we'll never hear from him again.