Re: Re: I wonder what kind of former president W. will be.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'd guess more of the later.
Me too.
Not only because he likes the outdoors, but also because he doesn't have a lot of fans at college campuses. The war criminal demonstrations of both Bush-hating students and former hippie Vietnam-dodging professors will drown out any speech Bush tries to give.
Re: Re: Re: I wonder what kind of former president W. will be.
Or he'll be to busy counting the billions he (and his cohorts) pilfered from the U.S taxpayers to do speeches and public appearances.Of course I kid.
His father wasn't the type to do a lot of appearances after he left and he was more popular going out than Junior is. Bush will go and live his life quietly, I'd imagine that 6+ years of war and a few natural disasters would warrant some R&R.
I can see Bush leading a wave of capitol flight to some refuge in Arabia where he and the other US financial criminals build a solid gold statue of Ronald Reagan and live like Persian emperors, enslaving the local bedouin nomads and commanding them to engage in sick orgies and human sacrifices to entertain them and prevent "The Great Golden Gipper" from swallowing the sun as the US struggles to recover from all the theft.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
It'll be very hard to justify giving that title to someone who won their second election with a larger share.
Bush is on a considerable par with Harding and Grant-- two lame men flanked by dozens of crony political gangbangers. I use that term liberally, but both of those administrations dealt serious financial and societal blows to the American people. Railroads and oil barons have always caused more harm than good, and Grant/ Harding's men usurped as much control as they could get.
Bush's Cabinet has taken a few cues from this ilk, just as Nixon's and Reagen's did. There have been more terrible presidents than mediocre and only less than a handful of meaningful ones.
It is tough to discern a great president out of the 44 (or 43, since this is only Obama's first day) and almost as tough to discern who's the shittiest president.
Think of the shit list: (in order of earliest rank as best my memory collects)
Martin van Buren
John Tyler
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Ulysses S Grant
James Garfield
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
William Taft
Warren G Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Richard Nixon
George H W Bush
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
People may be surprised at Clinton-- his administration created the beginnings of the financial collapse of Wall Street through deregulation and not holding big business execs accountable on their balance sheets. The repealing of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1998 was an important and unfortunate passing in American history. Bush's clan gladly accepted Clinton's Christmas present and soiled it with his two-inch proboscis.
Where and how do you categorize the shit list?
In my little opinion, there is roughly five presidents in this young country's history that represent anything of the true American spirit-- even though all five are seriously flawed as individual human men:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Abraham Lincoln
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
The rest of the crowd falls into mediocre-land. Give or take a few.
Again... where can you place Bush, for other presidents have committed grave, grave acts as well.