You're wrong. Sorry son, but The Hulk is stronger than the Juggernaut.
Let's look at plain facts: Juggernaut claims to be unstoppable, yet he was stopped by War Hulk (yes, I realize that the Hulk was souped up here, but the fact remains that HE STOPPED THE JUGGERNAUT). Hell, Juggernaut even got wide-eyed and said, "impossible" when he got stopped dead in his tracks and tossed.
So, we know Juggernaut isn't actually unstoppable, And don't hand me the "nothing ON EARTH can stop the Juggernaut" crap. We all know that Juggernaut's favorite quote about himself is "NOTHING can stop the Juggernaut", not "Nothing can stop the Juggernaut, unless of course it's not from Earth".
The Hulk once lifted a 150 billion ton mountain range. Whether he LIFTED it or BRACED it is irrelevant; the man was supporting a 150 billion ton mountain range. I'd LOVE to see you brace 400 lbs. on your back. The JUGGERNAUT took two weeks to get out of some cement... please! The Hulk would wipe his a$$ with cement.
Much has been made about Juggernaut walking around with nothing but a skeleton. Have you forgotten when the Hulk fought the U-FOES and 90% of his body-tissue was blasted away, only to grow back within a few seconds?
I'll grant you that Juggernaut stomped Thor, but that's nothing Hulk hasn't done.
The plain truth is that Juggernaut HAS been stopped by PHYSICAL force before, he HAS been immobilized by Spiderman and a cement truck, and he HASN'T demonstrated that he is as strong as the Hulk (punches nearly destroying the Earth don't equal overcoming the matter/antimatter equation).
Originally posted by bherrle
The JUGGERNAUT took two weeks to get out of some cement... please! The Hulk would wipe his a$$ with cement.
That's one of the greatest PIS-moments in Marvel, akin to Spiderman vs Firelord.
Hulk might be able to eventually reach higher powerlevels, but still he would be unable to hurt classic Juggernaut.
Originally posted by bherrle
You're wrong. Sorry son, but The Hulk is stronger than the Juggernaut.Let's look at plain facts: Juggernaut claims to be unstoppable, yet he was stopped by War Hulk (yes, I realize that the Hulk was souped up here, but the fact remains that HE STOPPED THE JUGGERNAUT). Hell, Juggernaut even got wide-eyed and said, "impossible" when he got stopped dead in his tracks and tossed.
So, we know Juggernaut isn't actually unstoppable, And don't hand me the "nothing ON EARTH can stop the Juggernaut" crap. We all know that Juggernaut's favorite quote about himself is "NOTHING can stop the Juggernaut", not "Nothing can stop the Juggernaut, unless of course it's not from Earth".
The Hulk once lifted a 150 billion ton mountain range. Whether he LIFTED it or BRACED it is irrelevant; the man was supporting a 150 billion ton mountain range. I'd LOVE to see you brace 400 lbs. on your back. The JUGGERNAUT took two weeks to get out of some cement... please! The Hulk would wipe his a$$ with cement.
Much has been made about Juggernaut walking around with nothing but a skeleton. Have you forgotten when the Hulk fought the U-FOES and 90% of his body-tissue was blasted away, only to grow back within a few seconds?
I'll grant you that Juggernaut stomped Thor, but that's nothing Hulk hasn't done.
The plain truth is that Juggernaut HAS been stopped by PHYSICAL force before, he HAS been immobilized by Spiderman and a cement truck, and he HASN'T demonstrated that he is as strong as the Hulk (punches nearly destroying the Earth don't equal overcoming the matter/antimatter equation).
You know whats funny? Hulk has been beaten a lot more than Juggernaut has. Juggernaut really only loses when he jobs like he did with War Hulk or he gets beaten telepathically.
Now I know Juggernaut would lose to characters like Thanos, but Hulk? no.
"You know whats funny? Hulk has been beaten a lot more than Juggernaut has. Juggernaut really only loses when he jobs like he did with War Hulk or he gets beaten telepathically."
Or when he gets dropped in cement by Spiderman, or when he has the Hulk knock his helmet off and punch him, causing someone (maybe Sersi) to exclaim "I don't think he'll be tying his shoes anytime soon, much less give us any problems.".
Just because it happened and you don't like it doesn't make it wrong... just accept it.
Oh, and Hulk gets beaten more because he is in a lot more comics 🙂
"Now I know Juggernaut would lose to characters like Thanos, but Hulk? no."
lol... people used to KNOW the moon was made of green cheese also... doesn't make it true. Hulk is the Strongest one there is, Juggernaut isn't.
Time to put it on you, I'm going to address each of your points.
Or when he gets dropped in cement by Spiderman, or when he has the Hulk knock his helmet off and punch him, causing someone (maybe Sersi) to exclaim "I don't think he'll be tying his shoes anytime soon, much less give us any problems."
Juggernaut wasn't dropped in the cement, he walked in it. Spiderman was trying everything he could against Juggernaut, but Cain just kept walking through not even noticing. This is when cain received 1 million volts of electricity with no damage whatsoever. This is also when Spiderman thought he could do nothing else so he tried to hit Juggernaut with the oil rig. Well Juggernaut walked through that unscathed, and decided he was going to kill Spiderman. Well of course they had to have him job, so Spiderman shot some wand Web in his eyes and he walked in the Cement.
Can you explain in more detail the situation with sersi?
"lol... people used to KNOW the moon was made of green cheese also... doesn't make it true. Hulk is the Strongest one there is, Juggernaut isn't."
Hulk is the strongest there is? thats just what he and a few other people claim. Like you said just because people say it, it doesn't make it true.
Is this the same Hulk that was ko'd by Namor off one punch? yea I think so. The same Hulk that was nearly beaten by Thing in a fight? This isn't How Juggernaut gets beat, but oh well. Anyways it doesn't matter how strong Hulk gets, he could never damage Juggernaut. Besides that point, Juggernaut has also shown the ability to increase his strength through focus, if you doubt what I say I'll show the scans. So whatever Hulk can do, Juggernaut can do also or better.
"Time to put it on you, I'm going to address each of your points."
I got scared when I read this 😉
"Juggernaut wasn't dropped in the cement, he walked in it. Spiderman was trying everything he could against Juggernaut, but Cain just kept walking through not even noticing. This is when cain received 1 million volts of electricity with no damage whatsoever. This is also when Spiderman thought he could do nothing else so he tried to hit Juggernaut with the oil rig. Well Juggernaut walked through that unscathed, and decided he was going to kill Spiderman. Well of course they had to have him job, so Spiderman shot some wand Web in his eyes and he walked in the Cement."
I know. I own the series. The point remains that Spidey-with some cement-defeated the Juggernaut. You can't whine about him "jobbing" everytime something you don't like happens.
"Can you explain in more detail the situation with sersi?"
It's in this issue: leaderslair.com/gammapeople/hulksmashes/hulk404-juggernaut.html
I know about the "psychic backlash" THE HULK caused, but check the issue and see what Sersi says about what THE HULK did to the Juggernaut.
"Hulk is the strongest there is? thats just what he and a few other people claim. Like you said just because people say it, it doesn't make it true."
People such as Dr. Strange... who, btw, has probably heard of the Juggernaut.
"Is this the same Hulk that was ko'd by Namor off one punch? yea I think so. The same Hulk that was nearly beaten by Thing in a fight? This isn't How Juggernaut gets beat, but oh well. Anyways it doesn't matter how strong Hulk gets, he could never damage Juggernaut. Besides that point, Juggernaut has also shown the ability to increase his strength through focus, if you doubt what I say I'll show the scans. So whatever Hulk can do, Juggernaut can do also or better."
Never damage Juggernaut? See the link I gave you. Until you give me a link showing Juggernaut performing SOME feat of strength better than the Hulk has done, we'er going on heresay.
Here go's your link, this is the same series as the Hulk fight.he only diffrence is that Juggernaut nearly killed Hulk.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/hulkandjuggy3.jpg
"I know about the "psychic backlash" THE HULK caused, but check the issue and see what Sersi says about what THE HULK did to the Juggernaut."
Who cares what sersi says? Juggernaut still cant feel pain
"People such as Dr. Strange... who, btw, has probably heard of the Juggernaut."
The same Dr. Strange who cant even manage to fase Juggernaut with his spells?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/NCSTJ1.jpg
Looks like him to me
Do you still want some scans of Juggernauts strength feats?
in sheer strength, hulk is unmatched. compare how thor did without his hammer against juggs and how he did against hulk. he was ready to finish juggs off (and yes, i can post the scan if REALLY necessary, but if you people know juggs as well as you think you do, you already KNOW it's true . . . 😉 until his hammer returned and juggs' shield was back up, while the hulk literally beat the crap out of thor without his hammer.
without hammer and without shield, thor's strength was about equal to juggs and his skill was far greater. he beat juggernaut. same scenario, savage hulk wrecked him.
hulk is the strongest.
Originally posted by leonidas
in sheer strength, hulk is unmatched. compare how thor did without his hammer against juggs and how he did against hulk. he was ready to finish juggs off (and yes, i can post the scan if REALLY necessary, but if you people know juggs as well as you think you do, you already KNOW it's true . . . 😉 until his hammer returned and juggs' shield was back up, while the hulk literally beat the crap out of thor without his hammer.without hammer and without shield, thor's strength was about equal to juggs and his skill was far greater. he beat juggernaut. same scenario, savage hulk wrecked him.
hulk is the strongest.
I'm afraid thats incorrect
Thor and Juggernaut have fought three times in comics, the first time is when Juggernaut took the god blast with np. The second time they fought is when Thor negated Juggernauts field and was able to hurt him. That doesn't mean he won though for he had to trick bfr Juggernaut to get away from him. The third time they fought Juggernaut damn near killed Thor within minutes, and this is from Thors mouth.
The problem I had with the second fight is that in that comic it implied that Juggernauts durability derives from his magic shield. This however is not true, because to get his shield up he has to want it up, and he rarely uses his shield. if you look back in comics you will notice that Juggernaut always is invulnerable, not just when he has his shield up.
Now I know that Hulk has beaten Thor in a fight but the same could be said about Hulk being beat by Thor. In the Thor respect thread there are scans showing Thor ko'ing Hulk.
Some scans from Juggernaut and Thors first fight
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/vs_ThorIIa.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/vs_Thor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jj3.gif
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/invulnerable.jpg
Some scans from there second fight, you can see that it says that Juggernauts durability derives from his force field. This isn't true
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut25ym.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2b9li.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2c0sk.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2d9jy.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2e7ao.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2f4hu.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2h7fh.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/thorvsjuggernaut2i6un.jpg
This is there third fight, It says that Juggernaut seems stronger but it's been stated by editors and the writer that this is Juggernaut in a fucused state.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor6.jpg
