Originally posted by samishe
Yeah he is stronger. Just like many other characters that Venom faced and beat. Strength isn't always main thing. Plus Venom is the original symbiot, so he is just... better.And Toxin looks cooler? Don't think so. Venom has tangue and cool symbol. 😄
i agree with sam on this, that venom looks cooler, nothin beats black
Originally posted by samishe
Yeah he is stronger. Just like many other characters that Venom faced and beat. Strength isn't always main thing. Plus Venom is the original symbiot, so he is just... better.And Toxin looks cooler? Don't think so. Venom has tangue and cool symbol. 😄
I never liked he tounge to be honest but the symbol is ossum, but his strength is v inconsistant, when he fights spider-man he seems only able to lift 11 tons any other time he seems a class 50, its either to make spider-man look better, or people just don't pay attention.
Well iv just checked in the ultimate spider-man guide and it says brock could lift 700 pounds before he was bonded with the symbiote but it was amped up 40 times when they merged which is roughly 35 tons i think so I stand corrected, although it does get rid of the theory that the only reason Venom is stronger than spider-man is because Eddie brock is stronger than peter parker, (if parker hadnt been bit by the spider) which i always preferd but hey...still dnt think venom should be able to beat the juggernaught though 😖
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well iv just checked in the ultimate spider-man guide and it says brock could lift 700 pounds before he was bonded with the symbiote but it was amped up 40 times when they merged which is roughly 35 tons i think so I stand corrected, although it does get rid of the theory that the only reason Venom is stronger than spider-man is because Eddie brock is stronger than peter parker, (if parker hadnt been bit by the spider) which i always preferd but hey...still dnt think venom should be able to beat the juggernaught though 😖
venom is stonger than spiderman tho, because he bonded well with the symbiote.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well iv just checked in the ultimate spider-man guide and it says brock could lift 700 pounds before he was bonded with the symbiote but it was amped up 40 times when they merged which is roughly 35 tons i think so I stand corrected, although it does get rid of the theory that the only reason Venom is stronger than spider-man is because Eddie brock is stronger than peter parker, (if parker hadnt been bit by the spider) which i always preferd but hey...still dnt think venom should be able to beat the juggernaught though 😖
He never really defeated Juggernaut, Juggs only ran away.
That issue was a good example of how durable Venom is. Spidey would've been dead after one(two) punch in the head from Juggernaut.
Originally posted by spideycarnage
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im pretty sure that i read that in a spiderman 616 hand book a while back too, brock did lift 700 lbs without the symbiote, with it his power became 40 times greather.venom is stonger than spiderman tho, because he bonded well with the symbiote.
Yeah I know that but there was a theory that the symbiote didnt augment the powers they were the same as spideys but brocks superior strength gave him the strength advantage which I preferd because it not only gave them room to get stronger by working out it gave brock alot of credit.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Yeah I know that but there was a theory that the symbiote didnt augment the powers they were the same as spideys but brocks superior strength gave him the strength advantage which I preferd because it not only gave them room to get stronger by working out it gave brock alot of credit.
I don't understand that theory.
When Spider bonded with symbiot he was capable of lifting 10 tonnes, brock only 700lb. So how the hell it happened that Brock became stronger than Spider? It seems to me that symbiot and Brock were just better couple than symbiot and spider. Thats why Venom is stronger.
Originally posted by samishe
I don't understand that theory.
When Spider bonded with symbiot he was capable of lifting 10 tonnes, brock only 700lb. So how the hell it happened that Brock became stronger than Spider? It seems to me that symbiot and Brock were just better couple than symbiot and spider. Thats why Venom is stronger.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
It kinda runs on the Ben Grimm principle. Ben gets stronger the more he lifts. He can still gain muscle. It works the same way with Eddie Brock and the symbiote. That's also why Angelo Fortunado and Mac Gargan are significantly weaker with the Venom symbiote.
would of thought scorpion would be pretty damn strong in the suit tho i mean its a class 35 combined with a what class 15 or 20 but for some reason hes weaker than the orignal venom
Originally posted by samishe
Well in unlished Carnage simply pushed him into a car. Not a big deal, Spider-man could do that. In Maximum Carnage Venom was beating Carnage without using environment.
The ONLY time venom woops carnage's ass in max carnage is near the end when carnage has already gotten his brain f*cked up by the mind scrambler thing.
in fact, the ONLY time i've ever seen venom outfight carnage at all was in venom vs carnage issue 2, all the other times, he had to resort to environment, etc, and even then, most of the time he ended up just as near death (blowing himself up, etc).
Originally posted by VENOMS_SPAWN
well the more corrupt u become the better the suit bonds with you, that is why eddie has done so well with the symbiote- his strength/rage/need for revenge makes him stronger. spidy did not have the rage part, or the need for revenge.
Thats bull the writers make up , the suit worked better for Punisher and he isn't 'corrupt'.
Originally posted by samishe
He never really defeated Juggernaut, Juggs only ran away.
That issue was a good example of how durable Venom is. Spidey would've been dead after one(two) punch in the head from Juggernaut.
True but he's quicker. Juggs would never land a solid blow.
And didn't this happen in Toxin's debut? I seem to remember him punking both Venom and Carnage at the same time.
Did anyone actuly like Toxins debut I still have ahrd enough time beliveing venom and carnage would work together, not to mention the artwork was terrible I couldnt stand that artwork, and the story was very borin and drole, but hey at least...wow I think thats the first comic Iv read that I realy couldnt stand lol
Originally posted by Sparkz
Did anyone actuly like Toxins debut I still have ahrd enough time beliveing venom and carnage would work together, not to mention the artwork was terrible I couldnt stand that artwork, and the story was very borin and drole, but hey at least...wow I think thats the first comic Iv read that I realy couldnt stand lol
are you kidding? i loved the artwork. yes, the humans could have used a little more work, but as for the symbiotes, they were done beautifully! and i do think venom and carnage would work together. at this point, venom is much more controlled by the symbiote itself, rather than brock, and carnage is always lookin out for himself more than anything, so if a threat emerged they neither could take on one on one, venom would partner up for survival's sake beause of his the symbiote's instinct, and carnage would partner up for fear of death, AND that this is HIS son, so he has the burning hatred for it that venom has for him