I've always thought that Carnage was in a whole other class than Venom, judging from his first appearance when he tossed Spidey and Venom around like they were nothing. But in recent years this has changed and now Venom is the top dog. Taking blows from both Juggernaut and Superman, I mean, c'mon. That whole Access story when Venom fought Superman must be the worst garbage I've read.
I wanted to point out that Spider-man defeated Toxin in his 6 issue story. Although it was literary TOXIN he fought (Pat Mullins, the host, was sedated) I don't know how much Pat could have contributed. Sure, he's a cop and he has close combat training, but he's inexperienced at the whole meta human fighting thingamajiggy.
Toxin/Pat's fighting style resemble that of Carnage, using brute force and speed to overwhelm. I can't remember seeing Carnage pulling of any impressive moves, he just does his thing utilizing his strength and symbiotic weaponry. Venom has more grace, and as earlier pointed out he's strategic.
Due to Toxin/Pat's inexperience and the fact that Spidey beat Toxin I see a chance for old Venom to at least land some sucker punches. Venom's fighting style resembles Spidey's and Toxin has yet to prove himself in my opinion.
The funny thing about when Spidey beat Toxin was that he used his webbing to ensnare him. Since when does it hold class 75 characters? It wasn't a very thick layer either.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
there is nothing wrong with that but juggernaut hit captain britain and he flyed back a mile and that should have happen to venom as well
I guarantee that Venom could knock Captain Britain into obscurity as well. As for Carnage, when he fought Toxin, he was at full health. After he had given birth, he had felt drunk and tired. He was fine by the time that he killed that artist, and then when Pat had handed him his ass. However, this thread is not about Carnage. It's about Venom vs Toxin. Back on topic.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
there is nothing wrong with that but juggernaut hit captain britain and he flyed back a mile and that should have happen to venom as well
Even if Venom flew a mile away doesn't mean he would've been killed, he could take such punch just like all other punches in in madness.
Originally posted by Mider
meh well thats a feat in itself in maximum carnage, it was said carnage was stronger then any of the team members not combined but one on one yeah he could take them and venom was one of them
It was said that he is srtonger than any member of his team(doppelganger, shriek, demogoblin and carion), not of spider team.
Originally posted by samishe
Ok, then my opinion is that Toxin has a little strenght advantage(i said little because Venom before "dieing" had an upgrade), but it's hard to judge untill they fought one on one. Venom could win as well as Toxin.
umm... what upgrades did venom get after the Venom vs Carnage arc? because WHILE that was going on, the deal with venom in MK spider-man was also going on. and 2 months after venom vs carnage ended... so did eddie...