To address the Gargan issue, here's why he isn't stronger. His suit was what amplified his strength. He doesn't have it now, thus him having the Venom symbiote. However, I think that he may have been separated from it after he was arrested and put in prison, which is what I think happened to Kassidy.
Originally posted by Kontraz
are you kidding? i loved the artwork. yes, the humans could have used a little more work, but as for the symbiotes, they were done beautifully! and i do think venom and carnage would work together. at this point, venom is much more controlled by the symbiote itself, rather than brock, and carnage is always lookin out for himself more than anything, so if a threat emerged they neither could take on one on one, venom would partner up for survival's sake beause of his the symbiote's instinct, and carnage would partner up for fear of death, AND that this is HIS son, so he has the burning hatred for it that venom has for him
Fair enough I suppose but I still hated the artwork, on some panels I actuly had to stare at what was happening cause it looked realy weird, especialy human expressions now those were terrible.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
To address the Gargan issue, here's why he isn't stronger. His suit was what amplified his strength. He doesn't have it now, thus him having the Venom symbiote. However, I think that he may have been separated from it after he was arrested and put in prison, which is what I think happened to Kassidy.
Yeah but gargan still had super strength without his suit.
Originally posted by Kontraz
The ONLY time venom woops carnage's ass in max carnage is near the end when carnage has already gotten his brain f*cked up by the mind scrambler thing.in fact, the ONLY time i've ever seen venom outfight carnage at all was in venom vs carnage issue 2, all the other times, he had to resort to environment, etc, and even then, most of the time he ended up just as near death (blowing himself up, etc).
Not true. His brains were damaded but it didn't effected his strength and speed and Venom was barely standing when Carnage appeared so don't bring that damaged brains argument. the fight was still fair.
And that was NOT the only time Venom kicked his a$$. Check Venom on trial part 3.
Ok here we are I'll probaly scan it later but in the first appearance of the scorpion Dr Stillwell stated "He's reacting perfectly!see how his strength has increased and his coordination already is superhuman"
And that was before he was even in te suit and Gargan even states again before in the suit "I feel like a living dynamo I've become all muscle I can lick anybody"
That all seems like he has super strngth now don't it.
Fighting the Wrecking Crew (These guys have given Thor trouble)
Second fight with Razor fist. This is a fighting ability feat by far, considering Razor Fist can be a good threat to Iron Fist.
Toxin's series was honestly one of the best I had ever read. However, not many people noticed it, considering it was published during House of M. However, I think it occurs beforehand.
Thanks for the scans Marcus. The artwork in those are just terrible though. I think Toxin has a lot of potential but his character look just needs some work. I do like all his powers as well.
As far as Venom vs Toxin at this point I would side with Venom only because Toxin lacks the experiance. Once he learns the ropes I think He would be to much for Carnage and Venom to handle.
By the way, has there been anything mentioned on how weak he is to fire and sonics yet?
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Nope. Not yet. He hasn't encountered them yet. However, I do think that he may have more of a resistance. Unfortunately, as long as Bendis and Millar have a big influence in Marvel, we won't see much of Toxin.
