Ryu vs Jin

Ryu will beat Jin, seriously. You can say Jin can wreck cars apart of whatever while he yawns, and Ryu is still going to put him down. Also what Ken performed on the Cyborg was not his Shinryuken, that would have obliterated him. All he did was Shoryuken his ass--at least that's what the American dub names it and it does look like a Shoryuken instead of a Shinryuken. And btw Ryu's Shinku Hadouken which is what he performed at the end of the SF:A anime is far superiour to the Mesatsu Go Hadou, so naming Evil Ryu's feats are needed to stress just how superior his Shinku Hadouken is compared to the Murderous Intent.

Anyway I don't like to use the Animes as evidence to superiority/experience/etc. since most SF animes have different levels of fighting.

Ryu's technique alone would be the edge he needs over Jin in my point of view.

are you say that a real life human like Mike Tyson can crack a cyborg's Jaw because I don't believe that. IF Tyson were to hit the cyborg he would have broken his hand.

ps: did you even watch it because I don't think a real life human can do that do a cybrog since it's metal.

edit: hey if it's better than what a real life human can do than it's impressive to me. I don't need know stink mountain buster punches or light speed combat to be impressive

note 2: of course Balrog killed a elephant with one punch and I don't see a real life human doing the samething.

Originally posted by unrealman
are you say that a real life human like Mike Tyson can crack a cyborg's Jaw because I don't believe that. IF Tyson were to hit the cyborg he would have broken his hand.

ps: did you even watch it because I don't think a real life human can do that do a cybrog since it's metal.

edit: hey if it's better than what a real life human can do than it's impressive to me. I don't need know stink mountain buster punches or light speed combat to be impressive

note 2: of course Balrog killed a elephant with one punch and I don't see a real life human doing the samething.

I never said anything about Tyson or real humans. I said that it's not impressive when you talk about characters like Ryu or Jin.

from the guide

It's been stated that Ryu was actually feeling lonely at how he was leaving Ken behind in terms of ability

by SF3, Ryu has trained and focused his mind to the point where he's as powerful as if he'd had given into the Satsu no Hadou.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime

Ryu's technique alone would be the edge he needs over Jin in my point of view.

Technique is not a big edge. May be only in old kung-fu movies.

In the real fight if you meats opponent who is simply fights better, you would lose even if your technique is perfect.
I'm not saying saying that Jin fights better than Ryu. It was just an example.

from the guide 4.4

Who are the most powerful Street Fighter characters?

Tier 1 Akuma, Gill, Oro, SFA3 Bison, Ingrid - the strongest out of the
SFer's. They outclass everyone. These guys are in the godly range (in
some cases like Ingrid, literally).

Tier 2 SF2 M. Bison, Sagat, Ryu, Satsui no Ryu (Evil Ryu), Q(

Tier 3 Ken, Gen (and SFA Akuma), Rose, Charlie, Urien, Cody, Guy, Cammy? (FF😖W),
Kyle?, Haggar?

Tier 4 Guile, Chun-Li, Hugo, Sodom, Rolento, Vega, Twelve (hinted),Maki

Tier 5 Adon, Sakura, Balrog, Cammy, Zangief, Dhalsim, T Hawk, Alex, Eagle

Tier 6 The Twelve Dolls, Karin, Birdie, Necro, Dudley

Tier 7 Blanka, Fei Long, Honda

Tier 8 Makoto, Ibuki, Elena, Yun, Yang, Remy?

Tier 9: Dee Jay, R. Mika, Dan

Tier 10: Sean

ps: I think that Ryu and Jin should like team up and go on advetures and beat up the bad guys. that exactly might make a good fan fic if done correctly.

Good point, and I'm glad you pointed out that you didn't mean Jin fights better--not saying he doesn't or doesn't have the potential.

Personally I think Ken should be placed on the 2nd tier. The only difference between Ken and Ryu is that Ryu trains harder in order to make up for his lack of natural abilities in contrast to Ken.

Originally posted by unrealman

ps: I think that Ryu and Jin should like team up and go on advetures and beat up the bad guys. that exactly might make a good fan fic if done correctly.

Sounds awesome.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Personally I think Ken should be placed on the 2nd tier. The only difference between Ken and Ryu is that Ryu trains harder in order to make up for his lack of natural abilities in contrast to Ken.

True. Ryu and Ken are conciderably equel.

From the guide 4.4

Tier 2 Sagat: Although he was too obsessed with revenge and unfocused during
Alpha, by the end of Alpha 3, he has realized the error of his ways and is
now on the path to the true warrior. All statements and storyline
implications from there on are that Sagat is matching Ryu step for step in
progress as they await their glorious battle, so it's really easy to tier
Sagat here. Note that this is Sagat in his most present state, not most
present state since when he was last seen in a game, since unlike other
characters, it's easy to estimate where Sagat is even without seeing him
due to all the statements and implications.

Tier 3 Ken: Ryu states to Ken in SF3 that he still has the better win record.
But the way he says it indicates that it's still pretty close. Thus Ken
gets this tier. Pretty obvious, I think.

Tier 3 Gen: I think it's hard to decide whether he's in tier 2 or tier 3, but
he's definately up there. Gen was able to fight Akuma to a standstill in
Alpha, after all. He's definately not as good as the further trained Akuma
of SF3, though (Gen of course being most likely unable to further train
because he's most likely dead). I'd be really surprised if he (and thus
even Akuma during that time) was as strong as "I take on tons of people by
myself" SFA3 Bison, so... generally tier 3 for him. On a random note, Gen
uses ki in his attacks with lots of skill. It's just not as obvious as
Akuma (not all ki usage manifests as fireballs or something visual).
Although I'm on the fence on whether or not he should be in tier 2 or tier
3, I do lean towards tier 3 because any higher would make him on the same
level as Evil Ryu or current day Ryu, both of whom are likely beyond what
even Akuma used to expect back then (with Evil Ryu slaughtering everyone
Akuma included in his what-if SFA3 storyline) and SFA Akuma is roughly
on the same level as Gen, so... (of course, SF3 Akuma is a different
story)

Evil Ryu's what if ending

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/psx/b/sfa3eryu.htm

Jin goes devil mode and can shoot lasers, and ryu's projectiles move too slow.

Eye beams>hadoken which result in a dead ryu. (no offense to any sf fans. I'm one myself)

if youre a fan why do you post crap?

1. this is normal Jin, NOT DEVIL JIN OR EVIL RYU!!!
2. Jin can shoot lasers, soo what, Ryu shoots beams all the time
3. Sf do Dbz things, is compared to it, and you compare them to Tekken,

urgh yeah right

*Cough*

Let this thread die.

Ryu wins for three reasons

1. he's a power house attacks like shin-shoryu-ken can kill, he has more then enough power to stop jin

2. experience, ryu goes around the world fighting for years his fighting instinct is sharp

3.He has more devastating mves.

2 is a good reason... 3 is not...

Originally posted by shin_remy

3. Sf do Dbz things, is compared to it, and you compare them to Tekken,

urgh yeah right

urgh yeah right 😆

I agree Jin wins...Corpse Thrust!

Hey Shin remy read this next one

Originally posted by shin_remy
if youre a fan why do you post crap?

1. this is normal Jin, NOT DEVIL JIN OR EVIL RYU!!!
2. Jin can shoot lasers, soo what, Ryu shoots beams all the time
3. Sf do Dbz things, is compared to it, and you compare them to Tekken,

urgh yeah right

Hey Shin Remy, Who said that Jin couldn't be Devil Jin? And also don't even compare street fighter to dragonball. DBZ is way too powerful, beyond the point of comprehension. Anyway, YOU'RE the one whose posting crap! Think about what we're comparing here. Two very different characters. Ryu has supercharged moves based on ki. Jin and everyone else in tekken is based on realistic fighting. So even if Jin isn't in devil form, Jin is putting up a fight against total cheapness! So in a sense, you can't even compare tekken to street fighter. I was just trying to even the odds by making jin devil form. Take away supercharged attacks and Jin would beat ryu. Wouldn't be easy, but he could do it.