Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
there are as bad as the dodgers instead of making the team better and putting yourself in a position to get to the world series and possibly win it, they need to get rid of some prospects in favor of winning
They aren't refusing to trade Drabek. Amaro denied that rumor yesterday.
Plus, no matter what, the Phillies are already in position to get to/win a World Series.
Originally posted by SmasandianWait, you're actually a Blue Jays fan? I thought you were just a fan of Halladay.
I always thought he would be a perfect fit in the Blue Jays org.We always needed a LF that could hit and for RBI's also.
But, yeah, with Holliday, the Cardinals are loaded, absolutely loaded. They have a great bench now, too.
Originally posted by forumcrewNo, it was actually banned already when they were tested for it, it just wasn't tested before that. But that's besides the fact, I wasn't saying they were on the list because I'm outraged, I was just letting people know.
Bottom line is baseball allowed it and so a lot of players did it. Including a lot of pitchers, just part of the game have to accept it.
As for my reaction, well, I'm not shocked, but I am a little surprised since Ortiz was so outspoken about it before today. He sure shut up quickly, though, since he's not talking about it anymore. People are calling for the Red Sox to be stripped of their titles, which I think is ridiculous.
Originally posted by SmasandianWell, they never tested for it before this whole "scandal" broke, but...its been on record that it hasn't been allowed since as far back as 1991. But, alas, we don't know what the drug is that came up for Ortiz and Manny, so until that time, we don't have all the information about this positive test.
No they shouldn't be stripped of their titles because at the time, it wasn't illegal. (I think)But it does make the title a bit less significant.
I thought Halladay would be moved but I'm not sure if I don't like the idea of him leaving or not.
The only problem I see is that when Vince Carter left, we got dick all. I rather have Halladay pitch another year and a half than get nothing.
But I don't know who they prospects were so I'm not to sure. Also, there is front management issues with an interim president so it could be the case that the GM wasn't making the final say if a deal should go through or not.
No, I thought the Giants said no.
In hindsight, yes, if it was turned down by Toronto, it would be bad.
But at the time, Toronto had no hitters and they didn't needed Lincecum.
Rios has the tools to be an amazing player, but he could never get them going. He did a couple of years ago but not anymore. Also, Blue Jays problems have been stemmed from the lack of key hitting. They have the pitchers to compete just not the hitting.