Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Isn't the serpent a symbol of the Devil?Word, be like the devil. But be gentle! God forbid Christians strike anyone down for not believing what they do*coughcrusadescough*
No, it doesn't represent the Devil. That is a man-made philosophy that God never intended.
Thats a vague mis-interpretation of scripture. The meaning is BE WISE but ALSO BE GENTLE.
Originally posted by Captain Falcon
Q: What happened when Christianity went to Europe in the 5/6th Century?A: The [b]Dark
ages.hmm
Q: Why is there lots of wars in India?
A: Islam, Sihkism, Hinduism and other religions.
hmm
Q: Why is there people in the US who push religion into schools?
A: They can't think clearly and believe it's right.
hmm
And you wonder why I hate it. 😬 [/B]
Falcon lemme ask you a question, Would there be world peace without religion?
Originally posted by Captain Falcon
Q: What happened when Christianity went to Europe in the 5/6th Century?A: The [b]Dark
ages. [/B]
Actually that's not really true. The true Dark Ages (a terrible phrase that hopefully one day will be erased from the history books) were caused by the collapse of the Western Roman Empire (the East endured) and the collapse took down a lot of the infrastructure, culture, trade routes, communication routes and protective measures. Essentially you had a lot of peple whoe had been sheltered and nurtered (as best that were able) by the centralised Western Roman government suddenly all alone in the world. New nations forming, war, all that jazz.
Now some would say that religion played a part in the WRE disintergration, but it alone wasn't the cause. And it must be said the Eastern Roman Empire (the Byzantines as they are also know) edured for many hundreds of years as the sole Christian power in the East. Granted, the Islamic religion was still young at that point, s it was much of an achievement.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There will always be religion. To blame everything on religion is bogus. We are to blame.
Yes! we are to blame IF we follow blindly without thinking . . . . It's like your question on another thread about flying an airplane into a building if God told you to do so . . . . one must discern if the action is requested by a human or a god, and one must THINK FOR ONESELF!!! Therefore, religion is not to blame, corrupt leaders and weak followers are the problem. Spiritual beliefs and seeking truth are not inherently corrupt.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes in Genesis...The serpent was associated with Satan, but not directly mentioned.
I never said it wasn't. It was associated with Satan once. Ever since then man made a assumption that the creature itself was somehow evil and should be a continual representation of evil.
Originally posted by Punker69
I never said it wasn't. It was associated with Satan once. Ever since then man made a assumption that the creature itself was somehow evil and should be a continual representation of evil.
Isn't that kind of God's fault? It's just like mankind -
"Adam and Eve! You ate the fruit! You committed a wrong, and as I result all people will be born into sin, even though they didn't actually do anything wrong and didn't personally eat the fruit. Why? Because I'm God and I so say! Bwooorrhhh!!!!"
"And you, Snake!!! Because of what you did all snakes for all time will be viewed badly, you will crawl on your belly, eat dust, and bite the heel of man, who shall try to crush your skull with his tin of baked beans! And yes, all snakes, even though 99.999999999999999999999999 snakes had not a thing to do with this event"
Which I would resent. Pelagias had it right. Why should people be considered to be sinful. We did nothing. A good many of us will do nothing wrong all life. Why should we believe we are to be punished for something a couple of stupid people did thousandss of years ago?
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Isn't that kind of God's fault? It's just like mankind -"Adam and Eve! You ate the fruit! You committed a wrong, and as I result all people will be born into sin, even though they didn't actually do anything wrong and didn't personally eat the fruit. Why? Because I'm God and I so say! Bwooorrhhh!!!!"
"And you, Snake!!! Because of what you did all snakes for all time will be viewed badly, you will crawl on your belly, eat dust, and bite the heel of man, who shall try to crush your skull with his tin of baked beans! And yes, all snakes, even though 99.999999999999999999999999 snakes had not a thing to do with this event"
Which I would resent. Pelagias had it right. Why should people be considered to be sinful. We did nothing. A good many of us will do nothing wrong all life. Why should we believe we are to be punished for something a couple of stupid people did thousandss of years ago?
Not to mention that before Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge, neither of them had knowledge of good and evil, or right or wrong. This begs the question, "How could Adam and Eve know that eating from the tree of knowledge is wrong, let alone what wrong is?"
Which I would resent. Pelagias had it right. Why should people be considered to be sinful. We did nothing. A good many of us will do nothing wrong all life. Why should we believe we are to be punished for something a couple of stupid people did thousandss of years ago? [/B]Which would also go against blaming one for another's sin. "Taking the plank out of your own eye first, and judging others, for what you had not committed yourself." Now everybody judges Adam and Eve, and we are told not to judge.
Not to mention that before Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge, neither of them had knowledge of good and evil, or right or wrong. This begs the question, "How could Adam and Eve know that eating from the tree of knowledge is wrong, let alone what wrong is?"Good point. Adam and Eve would be like children. They were punished for their curiosity which god had instilled in human beings. Maybe god should of thought about the curiosity factor and left it out.
Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
Heh, i agree eligion bashing is wrong, and i would know. I'm a jehovah's witness and I've had people sick their dogs on me, slam doors in my face, literally hitting my face, I've been threatened with bat's and knives, yelled at cursed at, the works.
Well, I guess you could stay away from those people and there wouldn't be the catalyst that leads them to act in such an unacceptable way.
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
"And you, Snake!!! Because of what you did all snakes for all time will be viewed badly, you will crawl on your belly, eat dust, and bite the heel of man, who shall try to crush your skull with his tin of baked beans! And yes, all snakes, even though 99.999999999999999999999999 snakes had not a thing to do with this event"Which I would resent. Pelagias had it right. Why should people be considered to be sinful. We did nothing. A good many of us will do nothing wrong all life. Why should we believe we are to be punished for something a couple of stupid people did thousandss of years ago?
God was not talking about the snakes as in creatures. He was talking about Satan. It was not God's intention for snakes to be viewed so poorly. As least I dont think it was.
"We did nothing.." According to the Bible and laws Jesus has set out for his people, most of us sin everyday. By God standards that "Most of us will do nothing wrong in our life" got void around age 3 when you started first dissobeying your parents. We are born into sin because of Adam and Eve and we will sin until the day that we die. Its apart of our humanity and who we are.