Darth Revan vs. DN Kyle Katarn

Force and lightsaber battle. WHo wins?

Revan wins. Kyle is, at the most, even with Yoda (for the record I don't that he is as strong as Yoda). Revan is stronger than Yoda.

That he is, but not by an overwhelming margin.

But I'd be hard pressed to put Kyle on even terms with Yoda, so he'd lose to Revan.

Kyle is the most skilled with a saber in the NJO but i say Revan takes it .

Kyle is the most skilled? Oh shucks, you must be forgetting Luke then..

A No, Kyle equals Lukes saber skills, And do you know nothing of the NJO he is the foremost battlemaster. Ive read everything i can on Kyle and in many places its stated that kyles power rivels lukes and equals or surpasses lukes saber skills

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Despite being almost completely self-trained, Kyle became one of the New Jedi Order's most respected and powerful Jedi Masters. With relatively little lightsaber combat training, Kyle defeated seven trained Dark Jedi: Boc, Gorc, Pic, Maw, Sariss, Yun, and then Jerec himself - an amazing accomplishment for someone of his status of training. Kyle again showed great skill defeating the Dark Jedi Desann, a Dark Jedi with power that matched that of Luke Skywalker. It is believed that his raw power was increased to rival that of Luke Skywalker's when Katarn visited the Valley of the Jedi after first encountering Desaan. Kyle also showed a strong will, resisting the many taunts and mind tricks Desann used on him in the Yavin temple. During the events of The Disiples of Ragnos, Kyle had already become the strongest swordsman in the New Jedi Order, and successfully trained one of the youngest and unarguably most famous Jedi Knight during these events, Jaden Korr.

While Kyle's fighting style may be a fighting style created by the New Jedi Order, it's also possible that it is a personal style. If the player chooses the Dark Side in the computer game, Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, Kyle uses many Force techniques, such as Force pulling the charcters lightsaber away during a battle, as well as many physical attacks such as putting his lightsaber away, grabbing the character with one hand, and punching them with the other. However, it should be noted that Kyle did learn many techniques from the spirits of Qu Rahn and the ancient Jedi Tal in the Valley of the Jedi such as the Flowing Water cut and the Falling Leaf attack.

During the events led by Desann, Kyle showed a great mastery of the Force by relearning powers of both the Light and Dark Side of the Force in a relatively short amount of time. His general mastery of the Force was incredible and surpassed all but a few of only the strongest Jedi Masters such as Luke Skywalker. Despite being a Jedi Master on the Council, Kyle Katarn can be considered to be something of a Grey Jedi.

Wasn't Kyp Durron better than Kyle Katarn?

Originally posted by Darth Katarn
A No, Kyle equals Lukes saber skills, And do you know nothing of the NJO he is the foremost battlemaster. Ive read everything i can on Kyle and in many places its stated that kyles power rivels lukes and equals or surpasses lukes saber skills

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Really? LOL... I don't suppose a "you're dead wrong" response would solve anything as you're completely confused. Kyle is nowhere near Luke in anything, if anybody is 2nd to Luke it is Kyp. Good try. Show me anythng that says Kyle remotely rivals Luke in anything.. Oh wait, it doesn't exist.

Darth Katarn if you got that from wikipedia, then you are using a non-canon source. Wikipedia has a mixture of fact and opinion, considering they stated DN Luke "possibly" surpassed Yoda, which we all know he did and by many leagues as well.

Kyle has shown nothing to put his saber skills on par with Luke. It's also possible you are comparing a DN Kyle to JA Luke, which would be more equal, but consider NJO Luke and DN Luke, surpass anyone of his era by leagues, the only jedi who comes close is DN Kyp.

Originally posted by Darth Katarn
A No, Kyle equals Lukes saber skills, And do you know nothing of the NJO he is the foremost battlemaster. Ive read everything i can on Kyle and in many places its stated that kyles power rivels lukes and equals or surpasses lukes saber skills

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Ye you tell that to tdtd, who has read almost all the NJO Books, yeh great reasoning, i doubt you've read one book.

lol

Luke is above Kyle, Kyp probably is, too. I don't know about Jacen or Corran or anyone else.

Jacen could probably challenge Kyle, but I'm not sure if I see him coming out with a win. Corran would be annoying as hell, considering he can absorb energy output on the level of multiple thermal detonaters and he's supposdly a pretty decent duelist himself. But personally, I'd put him at 3rd or 4th in the NJO hierarchy.

Luke, Kyp, Jacen, Kyle, Coran.. Type 5 of the NJO.

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I was under the impression that Kyle was on par with Jacen.

Jacen gets pretty powerful under Vergere's tutelage, though. Before Traitor he probably is less powerful than Kyle. After..he is much more powerful. He rivals him. I am guessing it's Luke, Kyp, Jacen, Kyle, Corran. I agree with Ttd on this one.

DN Jacen could probably challenge Kyle, but as of Traitor? He'd get his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by Deception
Darth Katarn if you got that from wikipedia, then you are using a non-canon source. Wikipedia has a mixture of fact and opinion, considering they stated DN Luke "possibly" surpassed Yoda, which we all know he did and by many leagues as well.

Kyle has shown nothing to put his saber skills on par with Luke. It's also possible you are comparing a DN Kyle to JA Luke, which would be more equal, but consider NJO Luke and DN Luke, surpass anyone of his era by leagues, the only jedi who comes close is DN Kyp.

Nobody surpasses yoda not even like.And prove to me wikipedia is not a canon source