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Originally posted by kgkg
Look at the post above?

You can't have it both ways, either it was a tough fight or all it takes to ko a fresh Superman is two hits from Ironman/Simon.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You can't have it both ways, either it was a tough fight or all it takes to ko a fresh Superman is two hits from Ironman/Simon.

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Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
I stand corrected.....someone did say that. The blast just hurt him.
Originally posted by Silent Master Yea...they beat down an already ko'd Superman, notice his lack of repsonse to the hits.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
No one said Iron man took him out
Originally posted by kgkg
Ok so lets do this.

Fine.

Strength:

Clark - The time he tried to catch the falling Daily Planet globe, but was unable to prevent it impacting with the street. When he strained to lift what he claimed to be "over 80 tons" worth of collapsed building off of him. There was a time when he was knocked on his ass and maybe unable to get up due to water pressure from perhaps a river. Tunneling underground after being trapped by some -really- light weight I believe. More recently, he failed to catch Brainiac's ship with the help of like two dozen Kryptonians.

Thor - Failing to lift a tractor while at half power. Can't really think of more bad strength showings to be honest. Taking 59 seconds to kill a Tiger?

Durability:

Clark - Being knocked out by a gas station. Being impaled by Brainiac's ship.

Thor - Being knocked out by a bullet. I'd include the mast scene but Umar's responsibility and the fact that Thor withstood planetary level weight later on makes me thing there was some mystical shit involved.

Speed:

Clark - Deathstroke and Shadowdragon.

Thor - Wolverine and Spider-Man with Masterson.

Do you have anymore to add? I didn't count shit like Let the Battle Begin or Konvict.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You can't have it both ways, either it was a tough fight or all it takes to ko a fresh Superman is two hits from Ironman/Simon.
Both ways? I agree the avenger as a group gang rushed Clark and K.O'ed him as shown on panel.

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Originally posted by kgkg
Both ways? I agree the avenger as a group gang rushed Clark and K.O'ed him as shown on panel.

Cool, Ironman and Simon >> Superman.

bringing up jla/avengers again...you guys fail

Originally posted by kgkg
Where are you getting the idea that Superman had hard time standing up or to talk?

He couldn't depend because they bump rushed him as a group.

[B]THOR - GOD OF THUNDER

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Thor landed one good punch tried to rush superman got his hammer block and K.O'ed by Superman.... Not a good showing no matter how fans want to twist it. [/B][/QUOTE] You're the one spinning it and the writer himself disagreed as did Superman right after Thor was ko'd.

I'd say these two are in the same league strength wise with a slight edge to Superman. I'd also say the gap is much closer than say WW is to Superman.

Originally posted by kgkg
So you first claim that this was close... and can't come up with nothing other than what Superman said after the battle? Why do you need to do this look at the battle it's there.

Look at the fight it's that simple Thor landed one punch--- and was owned... I love how people try to twist simple things.

as in Character X lands one punch tries another gets blocked one-shooted...Very good fight for Thor indeed.

I am not trying to argue low showing but on average Thor has problems with well everyone.... While Superman doesn't... Good think you don't want to do this. 🙂

I am intrigued here. Who is everyone that Thor has had problems with ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Fine.

Strength:

Clark - The time he tried to catch the falling Daily Planet globe, but was unable to prevent it impacting with the street. When he strained to lift what he claimed to be "over 80 tons" worth of collapsed building off of him. There was a time when he was knocked on his ass and maybe unable to get up due to water pressure from perhaps a river, and needing to tunnel underground after being trapped by some -really- light weight I believe. More recently, he failed to catch Brainiac's ship with the help of like two dozen Kryptonians.

Thor - Failing to lift a tractor while at half power. Can't really think of more bad strength showings to be honest. Taking 59 seconds to kill a Tiger?

Durability:

Clark - Being knocked out by a gas station. Being impaled by Brainiac's ship.

Thor - Being knocked out by a bullet. I'd include the mast scene but Umar's responsibility and the fact that Thor withstood planetary level weight later on makes me thing there was some mystical shit involved.

Speed:

Clark - Deathstroke and Shadowdragon.

Thor - Wolverine and Spider-Man with Masterson.

Do you have anymore to add? I didn't count shit like Let the Battle Begin or Konvict.

This is not what I had in mind... This is not a good thread to discuss Thor vs Superman. Do you want to make a new thread to discuss this?... I plan on doing a full low end/average Thor showing while you can do this for Superman. ---- The point of doing that will be to show that Thor on average has a lot more low end-average showing than Superman... If you agree with this than there is no point of the thread. I will make a thread later if you agree<or you can make one>. But I will need some time to organize a full scale scans of all Thor's low showing etc.

superman is the strongest, but hulk CAN surpass him. however, depending on how you interpret the hercules/atlas scan, it could be the best feat in marvel history. go herc! 😄

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cool, Ironman and Simon >> Superman.
Avengers I agree. Or did you miss the scan where WM , She-Hulk, Herc etc are attacking him as well.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
bringing up jla/avengers again...you guys fail
Yeah, we should start using silver age hyperboles, instead of actual direct, canon showings. ermmnone

Originally posted by psycho gundam
bringing up jla/avengers again...you guys fail
Blame Rage.

Originally posted by kgkg
Avengers I agree. Or did you miss the scan where WM , She-Hulk, Herc etc are attacking him as well.

Look at the scans, He was already on his way down when Simon connected.

I'm glad you agree that Ironman+Simon >> Superman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Look at the scans, He was already on his way down when Simon connected.
On his way down doesn't equal K.O but good try.

Body falling towards the ground, unable to defend himself and gave no reaction to being hit...sounds like a KO to me.

I think we're missing the essential part. Even after all that extra abuse from the Avengers (Hercules was hitting him so hard that his mace was chipping and all the attacks were coming simultaneously) that Superman had to endure, he and Thor still got up at the same time.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I think we're missing the essential part. Even after all that extra abuse from the Avengers (Hercules was hitting him so hard that his mace was chipping and all the attacks were coming simultaneously) that Superman had to endure, he and Thor still got up at the same time.

That Mace chipping was just art. That mace is unbreakable you can't tell how hard he was hitting him.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yeah, we should start using silver age hyperboles, instead of actual direct, canon showings. ermmnone
i don't agree with this thread at all, imo thor and superman are peers and any difference in strength is minor

bringing up jla/avengers though....come on, that shitball inexplicably stopped rolling downhill, no need to push it again.