Originally posted by kgkg
Ok so lets do this.
Fine.
Strength:
Clark - The time he tried to catch the falling Daily Planet globe, but was unable to prevent it impacting with the street. When he strained to lift what he claimed to be "over 80 tons" worth of collapsed building off of him. There was a time when he was knocked on his ass and maybe unable to get up due to water pressure from perhaps a river. Tunneling underground after being trapped by some -really- light weight I believe. More recently, he failed to catch Brainiac's ship with the help of like two dozen Kryptonians.
Thor - Failing to lift a tractor while at half power. Can't really think of more bad strength showings to be honest. Taking 59 seconds to kill a Tiger?
Durability:
Clark - Being knocked out by a gas station. Being impaled by Brainiac's ship.
Thor - Being knocked out by a bullet. I'd include the mast scene but Umar's responsibility and the fact that Thor withstood planetary level weight later on makes me thing there was some mystical shit involved.
Speed:
Clark - Deathstroke and Shadowdragon.
Thor - Wolverine and Spider-Man with Masterson.
Do you have anymore to add? I didn't count shit like Let the Battle Begin or Konvict.
Originally posted by kgkg
Where are you getting the idea that Superman had hard time standing up or to talk?He couldn't depend because they bump rushed him as a group.
[B]THOR - GOD OF THUNDER
Thor landed one good punch tried to rush superman got his hammer block and K.O'ed by Superman.... Not a good showing no matter how fans want to twist it. [/B][/QUOTE] You're the one spinning it and the writer himself disagreed as did Superman right after Thor was ko'd.
I'd say these two are in the same league strength wise with a slight edge to Superman. I'd also say the gap is much closer than say WW is to Superman.
Originally posted by kgkgI am intrigued here. Who is everyone that Thor has had problems with ?
So you first claim that this was close... and can't come up with nothing other than what Superman said after the battle? Why do you need to do this look at the battle it's there.Look at the fight it's that simple Thor landed one punch--- and was owned... I love how people try to twist simple things.
as in Character X lands one punch tries another gets blocked one-shooted...Very good fight for Thor indeed.
I am not trying to argue low showing but on average Thor has problems with well everyone.... While Superman doesn't... Good think you don't want to do this. 🙂
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThis is not what I had in mind... This is not a good thread to discuss Thor vs Superman. Do you want to make a new thread to discuss this?... I plan on doing a full low end/average Thor showing while you can do this for Superman. ---- The point of doing that will be to show that Thor on average has a lot more low end-average showing than Superman... If you agree with this than there is no point of the thread. I will make a thread later if you agree<or you can make one>. But I will need some time to organize a full scale scans of all Thor's low showing etc.
Fine.Strength:
Clark - The time he tried to catch the falling Daily Planet globe, but was unable to prevent it impacting with the street. When he strained to lift what he claimed to be "over 80 tons" worth of collapsed building off of him. There was a time when he was knocked on his ass and maybe unable to get up due to water pressure from perhaps a river, and needing to tunnel underground after being trapped by some -really- light weight I believe. More recently, he failed to catch Brainiac's ship with the help of like two dozen Kryptonians.
Thor - Failing to lift a tractor while at half power. Can't really think of more bad strength showings to be honest. Taking 59 seconds to kill a Tiger?
Durability:
Clark - Being knocked out by a gas station. Being impaled by Brainiac's ship.
Thor - Being knocked out by a bullet. I'd include the mast scene but Umar's responsibility and the fact that Thor withstood planetary level weight later on makes me thing there was some mystical shit involved.
Speed:
Clark - Deathstroke and Shadowdragon.
Thor - Wolverine and Spider-Man with Masterson.
Do you have anymore to add? I didn't count shit like Let the Battle Begin or Konvict.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I think we're missing the essential part. Even after all that extra abuse from the Avengers (Hercules was hitting him so hard that his mace was chipping and all the attacks were coming simultaneously) that Superman had to endure, he and Thor still got up at the same time.
That Mace chipping was just art. That mace is unbreakable you can't tell how hard he was hitting him.
Originally posted by Philosophíai don't agree with this thread at all, imo thor and superman are peers and any difference in strength is minor
Yeah, we should start using silver age hyperboles, instead of actual direct, canon showings. ermmnone
bringing up jla/avengers though....come on, that shitball inexplicably stopped rolling downhill, no need to push it again.