Thor vs. Doomsday

Originally posted by Juntai
1 - Supes speed then AND now compare to Flash's as long as he's not time traveling. Their races are proof of such, and Superman has even remarked to himself before about letting Flash win. Granted, Flash makes remarks about taking it easy as well. Supes has cought Wally on more than one occasion, and just the same Wally has outsped Supes at times. Their speed is definately comparable.

2- GL's are plenty fast. Notice how they outfly jets and things easily?

3- The Booster statement wasn't the only statement refering to his speed. Quit acting like it is. His speed is noted in nearly every issue. I don't even understand why you're bothering to act like he isn't fast. Several notes of his have been mentioend already.

1- But hes not an equal. Speeding to the max doesnt make him equal either when Flash does the same, time travelling or not. So even he end up matching DD theyr still < Flash.

2- Yes they are. When.they.are.flying. And im talking combat wise, i.e without fligth. Its not the same thing and its more revelant since it was in a close combat that he went down.

Now, if Gardner was stated, shown or written flying towards DD with such speed as the necessay to outspeed jets and more, its one thing. Flying rather normally to an opponent he knew nothing about and getting beaten in a close match its another.

3- And who is saying DD wasent fast? Sure he was. The Booster claim stands out because its the only controversial one.

As for the human eye part, i see it as they wer reacting faster than a human could respond in return but not totally invisible to the eye. Like a blur.

Wich brings us, to the thread discussion. Thor has moved in blur lite speeds against opponents. The DOS DD didnt seemed above it.

Look NO ONE is saying that DD doesn't have super speed, just that there's no proof that it's much everyone else is making it out to be. The fact that everyone was suprised at how fast DD was, just proves that he was faster than they all anticipated. The Hulk also suprises eveyone with his speed when he goes on a rampage, that doesn't mean that he's faster, or as fast as any of them. If DD were really as fast as Supes, then he would been able to cover the 50 miles to Metropolis in less than a second. Hell, classic Quiksilver could have done it in the time that DD took.

Originally posted by jgiant
What happens when....
Thor vs. DOS Doomsday

Thor vs. Hunter/Prey Doomsday

Rune King Thor vs. Gog war Doomsday

Fight must be to the death (dd has one life each fight)...must die by the others hands not by teleporting, sending somewhere else, etc...

Thor beats DOS Doomsday 7/10

Thor vs Hunter Prey/Doomsday will be a harder one, if Thor has his belt of strength and mystic armor he could beat HP Doomsday, without it HP Doomsday wins a slight majority. 6/10

Rune King Thor will out right own GW Doomsday, Rune King Thor is beyond Odin, haveing the full power of the Odin force and all the Rune Magic he kills him with a gesture like he did Mangog. Even King Thor will kick his ass, with one arm. RKT 10/10

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, if "Dorkster Gold" says it, it must be true!

Anyway, Thor can move faster than anybody can possibly imagine. He is able to react to "faster than light" attacks, which ruins the entire arguement of the speedblitz fiasco.

Thor will get hit. For he has got hit by slower moving people a billion times. Thus the speedblitz fiasco is valid. Both WW and flash reflexes is on par with Thor but look what DD done to them. And understand this. Those bony protrusions is going to go through his head.

Darkseid>>>>>>Thor
Yet DD killed him in seconds. What do you think he win do to Thor

Thor can just create a forcefield around him to keep DD at bay. Then the hard part would be choosing a power to use on DD to take him down.

Seriously, the guy's got a ton of options, even moreso than Superman.

People don't you know who DD is?
He eats class 100 guys for breakfast in less than seconds at the same time. Can Thor do this? Hell no!
DOS DD only went down because superman was able to last due to his durability and of the mountainous punches he was giving DD. Even if Thor can hit as hard as a non holding back Superman, I doubt he can withstand his assault for even a minute. Those bony protrusions is going to go right through him.

Second, HP DD is infinitely worst. There is absolutely no way Thor can win. Can Thor possibly hurt this DD? The answer is no. If you disagree then please provide proof. Opps! There is no proof since D.C. implied that the End of Time and the Virus is the only thing that can kill him. No amount of physical force or energy projection can kill him. He is insanely stronger than before (Going through superman's body like tissue paper even before superman can react and killing Darkseid faster than I can say "WTF?"😉

Originally posted by Accel
Thor can just create a forcefield around him to keep DD at bay. Then the hard part would be choosing a power to use on DD to take him down.

Seriously, the guy's got a ton of options, even moreso than Superman.

Thor can't summon force fields. Show scans please.
What makes you think he get it up before DD kills him?
And what makes you think that thor can cause him any damage when he is immune to all energy projection. If you show scans where Thor can summon force fields and provide a good explaination of how he can summon them in time then you must show how Thor can hurt DD.

Also if DD bony protrusions can go through superman and darkseid like tissue paper (I'm not exaggerating either-please read the comic) then what will prevent his bony protrusion from going right through that shield like tissue paper. Remember shields can be and have been broken in comics a billion times.

Originally posted by h1a8
People don't you know who DD is?
He eats class 100 guys for breakfast in less than seconds at the same time. Can Thor do this? Hell no!
DOS DD only went down because superman was able to last due to his durability and of the mountainous punches he was giving DD. Even if Thor can hit as hard as a non holding back Superman, I doubt he can withstand his assault for even a minute. Those bony protrusions is going to go right through him.

Buddy, you're not getting it. Thor doesn't have to slug it out with him. He can just shield himself and/or take to the air, all while using one of his MANY powers to win. Thor is wayyyy too versatile for DD.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can't summon force fields. Show scans please.
What makes you think he get it up before DD kills him?
And what makes you think that thor can cause him any damage when he is immune to all energy projection. If you show scans where Thor can summon force fields and provide a good explaination of how he can summon them in time then you must show how Thor can hurt DD.

Originally posted by Accel
Again, credit to Olivia for the scans.

Examples of creating Force Fields:

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1117/forcefield0010tj.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8997/forcefield0021vh.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7923/forcefield0032tc.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7716/forcefield0048ii.jpg

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/719/forcefield0057dk.jpg

He can also:
-steal DD's soul
-shrink him down ala Hyperion
-BFR him

Originally posted by h1a8
Also if DD bony protrusions can go through superman and darkseid like tissue paper (I'm not exaggerating either-please read the comic) then what will prevent his bony protrusion from going right through that shield like tissue paper. Remember shields can be and have been broken in comics a billion times.

Originally posted by Accel
I love it when people argue something they know nothing about...

He can also:
-steal DD's soul
-shrink him down ala Hyperion
-BFR him

Thor's shield has blocked a bomb that would have wiped out a fifth of the MU. Do you think DD is as strong as that?

None of those scans show that Thor can erect a force field except the last one. The others either show someone else doing it or not showing it at all. Even with the last one you have to give to defenses:

1. DD will hit thor a billions times before that shield is erect unless given prep.

2. How can Thor hurt DD if it gets erect. Remember that DD is immune to all energy projection. And Thor can't hit him physically if he's inside his shield (if he instantly manages to get it up-which is not possible)

3. How can his shield prevent DD from busting through it like tissue paper. There is plenty of evidence to support what i'm saying. Also all character's in marvel (even the mighty Thanos) has gotten their shields broken with enough pounding.

Originally posted by Accel
I love it when people argue something they know nothing about...

He can also:
-steal DD's soul
-shrink him down ala Hyperion
-BFR him

Thor's shield has blocked a bomb that would have wiped out a fifth of the MU. Do you think DD is as strong as that?

Yes dd is this strong (actually stronger). As he has went through the seemingly impossible like tissue paper and makes class 100 beings look like children.
Can't steal DD soul (Even if DD has one)
He only shrunk Hyperion due to a plot device (and it was based off Hyperion's powers). Also DD is immune to all energy projection

What is BFR?

Originally posted by h1a8
What is BFR?

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes dd is this strong (actually stronger). As he has went through the seemingly impossible like tissue paper and makes class 100 beings look like children.
Can't steal DD soul (Even if DD has one)
He only shrunk Hyperion due to a plot device (and it was based off Hyperion's powers). Also DD is immune to all energy projection

What is BFR?

Originally posted by h1a8
None of those scans show that Thor can erect a force field except the last one. The others either show someone else doing it or not showing it at all. Even with the last one you have to give to defenses:

1. DD will hit thor a billions times before that shield is erect unless given prep.

2. How can Thor hurt DD if it gets erect. Remember that DD is immune to all energy projection. And Thor can't hit him physically if he's inside his shield (if he instantly manages to get it up-which is not possible)

3. How can his shield prevent DD from busting through it like tissue paper. There is plenty of evidence to support what i'm saying. Also all character's in marvel (even the mighty Thanos) has gotten their shields broken with enough pounding.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yes dd is this strong (actually stronger). As he has went through the seemingly impossible like tissue paper and makes class 100 beings look like children.
Can't steal DD soul (Even if DD has one)
He only shrunk Hyperion due to a plot device (and it was based off Hyperion's powers). Also DD is immune to all energy projection

What is BFR?

Do you honestly read what you type?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Since when is DOS Doomsday immune to all energy projection? Cause I remember Supes blasting him into a wall with heat vision.

Yet it didn't put a scratch on him.
Even with the supreme effort of Superman combined with the entire JLA.
Not even the omega effect.

Originally posted by Accel
He's shown to it instantly and in three of the five scans (the other two, I'm not sure right now). It's not like he has to make a chant or any thing.

You're saying DD is as powerful as a bomb that can eliminate one-fifth of the universe just because he manhandled Superman...

Do you honestly read what you type?

He has to think and then make his hammer whirl around. The process takes longer than 100 years in the mind of DD.

Buddy manhandled isn't even the word.
He pierce through Superman and Darkseid like tissue paper (and I am not exaggerating) plus his force is concentrated on a very small point (his bony protrusion). I don't see how it is arguable that it is impossible for DD to penetrate Thor's shield. I think with the evidence of all the impossible things DD has done it is more than feasible (and not outrageous as you are saying) that DD can do this. There is no proof showing that he can't. And there is evidence showing that he possibly can.

Maxima, Green Lantern, Bloodwynd, Booster Gold, Ice, Fire, Blue Beetle, Supergirl.

All easily owned by Doomsday, most at the same time.

Thor would not get past all of these guys simultaneously. Maxima alone would give Thor a hell of a time. Maxima, Bloodwynd, AND GL together would beat Thor.

Even DOS DD wins 6/10.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has to think and then make his hammer whirl around. The process takes longer than 100 years in the mind of DD.

Buddy manhandled isn't even the word.
He pierce through Superman and Darkseid like tissue paper (and I am not exaggerating) plus his force is concentrated on a very small point (his bony protrusion). I don't see how it is arguable that it is impossible for DD to penetrate Thor's shield. I think with the evidence of all the impossible things DD has done it is more than feasible (and not outrageous as you are saying) that DD can do this. There is no proof showing that he can't. And there is evidence showing that he possibly can.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Maxima, Green Lantern, Bloodwynd, Booster Gold, Ice, Fire, Blue Beetle, Supergirl.

All easily owned by Doomsday, most at the same time.

Thor would not get past all of these guys simultaneously. Maxima alone would give Thor a hell of a time. Maxima, Bloodwynd, AND GL together would beat Thor.

Even DOS DD wins 6/10.

Originally posted by Accel
ABC logic. Doomsday wouldn't last against Galactus.

Neither would Thor. 1 jobfest for Galactus means Thor ownz Galan all of a sudden?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Neither would Thor. 1 jobfest for Galactus means Thor ownz Galan all of a sudden?