DE Sidious runs the gauntlet

Started by Jonathan Mark8 pages
Originally posted by IKC
Yes, but only that which specifically comes from Lucas himself is G-Canon.

That's what I meant...

And really what does this have to do with anything anyway?

That was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster. And he DOESN'T put anything into the novelisations other than what's in scripts for the movies, which is what the novelisations are based on.

Hmm my bad I though he had written it himself.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Theforce.net is not canon, it is not the final arbiter.

The OFFICIAL statement on canon released by SW.com has stated that elements from Lucas are G-Canon. You can not suddenly make one source more official than another when it deals with something that you want to hear.

No, but Sue Rostoni and Steve Sansweet are. G-canon? Perhaps not...above anything else that's c-canon? Yep

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, but Sue Rostoni and Steve Sansweet are. G-canon? Perhaps not...above anything else that's c-canon? Yep

Nein. Leland Chee clarified. Elements from Lucas = G-Canon.

Duh. Lucas rules over LFL.

Otherwise = C-Canon.

Sorry. There is no "inbetween G and C level just for novelizations."

Alan Dean Foster co-wrote ANH, didn't he? He didn't write it totally

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Alan Dean Foster co-wrote ANH, didn't he? He didn't write it totally

I'm pretty sure he wrote the entire thing based on the ANH script. There's even the scenes that were later put back in in the Special Edition. I used to have one of the original prints of it.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Nein. Leland Chee clarified. Elements from Lucas = G-Canon.

Duh. Lucas rules over LFL.

Otherwise = C-Canon.

Sorry. There is no "inbetween G and C level just for novelizations."

Not according to Rostoni, and to LEland: Anything from George or from the film production agency, and didn't Stover have a script handy from them?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I'm pretty sure he wrote the entire thing based on the ANH script. There's even the scenes that were later put back in in the Special Edition. I used to have one of the original prints of it.

I'm really sure he just co-wrote it...anything backing either way up?

Novelization
The novelization of the film was published in December 1976, six months before the film was released. The credited author was George Lucas himself, but the book was later revealed to have been ghostwritten by Alan Dean Foster, who went on to write the first Expanded Universe novel, Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Certain scenes deleted from the film (and later restored or archived in DVD bonus features) were present in the novel, such as Luke at Tosche Station with Biggs and the encounter between Han and Jabba in Docking Bay 94. Also, some scenes from the movie were included in a photo insert added to later printings which never made the original film (such as a closeup of a stormtrooper riding on a Dewback). Some of the material was omitted from the film by Lucas to maintain a linear narrative.

Ah, indeed. Just Wookiepedia'd it.

Janus, also what I meant by truce was we stop the insults between eachother. I apologized for the past and I seriously have nothing against you

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Not according to Rostoni, and to LEland: Anything from George or from the film production agency, and didn't Stover have a script handy from them?

I doubt you'll find anywhere in the script where they (as a narrative) say that Sidious can't be defeated by fighting him.

Even if that thing is G-Canon (which it isn't), it's still only Yoda, a fallible source, reminiscing.

I don't have anything against you personally- just your argument. I realize that's not easy to see, but it's how I treat everyone around here. I can joke with tdtd in one thread and rip him a new one in another. It's the nature of the game. Don't take it personally.

Heh, it's a bit hard not to do so...you're pretty good at being vitriolic, especially with the pictures.

And Illus; It was specified later on in another supplement and being in the novelization, it'd still go in the C-canon level at least, and the novelizations tend to go in like Flynn...though, Janus? The difference is, Td deserves to be torn a new one

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Heh, it's a bit hard not to do so...you're pretty good at being vitriolic, especially with the pictures.

And Illus; It was specified later on in another supplement and being in the novelization, it'd still go in the C-canon level at least, and the novelizations tend to go in like Flynn...though, Janus? The difference is, Td deserves to be torn a new one

I never argued that it wasn't C-Canon. I said it wasn't established as G-Canon, and even if it were, it's not definitive because it's Yoda's thoughts, not the narrative word or storyline.

Alright, I'll hunt for evidence on the subject later. However, in the EU, it goes

Lightsnake, at least I can make valid non fanboy arguments. And yes even though Janus jokes around, he has caused me nothing but heartache, like a girlfriend that left me at the alter.

That must have caused your fiancee no small amount of grief.

Well, now that tdtd has queered up the place:

Sidious loses at 4.

lol.. Whatever I burned her house down so I got the last laugh.