[QUOTE=6344632]Originally posted by Soleran
[B] Beast ripped off his helmet and his hatred turned to fear! He aged and ran away...............The dimension made a deal to give him back his youth if Juggs gave up his knowledge of the Crimson cosmos (ala hand beams for you Juggs newbs) and return him to his home. He isn't immortal at ALL. Get your stories powers right.
i have them right, i own them all. juggernaut doesnt age as long as his (powers are functioning properly). put it in parenthesis, just so you dont miss it.
i simplified it, so your mind isnt stretching trying to engulf the truth of the reality around you. juggernauts powers are based on the laws of 616 universe/dimension. as long as he's there, he will be forevermore a human juggernaut. forever... being the keyword.
Have you ever read the inscription on the Gem of Cyttorak? hold on I might be able to find it for you.
"Whosoever touches this gem shall be granted the power of the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak! Henceforth, you who read these words, shall become ... forevermore ... a human juggernaut!".
Ok what does forever mean? here I can find that for you to
for·ev·er (fôr-ĕv'ər, fər-)
adv.
1.For everlasting time; eternally: can live forever.
2.At all times; incessantly: was forever complaining about the job.
That should be enough for you
How is Juggernaut not stronger than Thanos? when did Thaos strength become unlimited? I dont know why I have to keep telling you but Juggernaut is far stronger than even Thor. There only one feat that I need to tell you that describes thor's strength. "Midgard serpent" yea the snake that wrapped around the world twice.
Here go's the proof that Juggernaut is stronger than Thor
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor6.jpg
You see, Thats Thor at full strength with his belt that doubles his strength, nearly being killed by Juggernaut with a hug.
Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion
Originally posted by soujaboy09Goddang it, does Champion have his Power Gem? plz state whether he does or doesn't plz. it makes a huge difference. No PG Champion loses. Champion w/PG beats Juggy.
Fight takes place in New YorkThis is Juggernaut focused, and Champion is mad no prep
No bfr fight till the death
Debate
Re: Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion
Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
Goddang it, does Champion have his Power Gem? plz state whether he does or doesn't plz. it makes a huge difference. No PG Champion loses. Champion w/PG beats Juggy.
I have already asked that 2 times now..............Once again though Cain has never shown a feat higher then Champions destroying Thanos shield without a power gem and destrying a planet without power gem.
I have seen juggs up against the wall with his old buddy Tom sucking the life out of him and there he was certainly hurting as well............
As well as the Exemplars busted his arse up badly until the Avengers came to help him.
Once again knocked out as well after Nimrod Knocks off his helmet and knocks him out..................Juggs has been stopped in the past sorry but its the truth, just not one that you like to hear. LOL Venom pimped slapped Juggs away and Juggs wouldn't even hurt him...............pfft yeah look out Champion.
Re: Re: Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion
Originally posted by Soleran
I have already asked that 2 times now..............Once again though Cain has never shown a feat higher then Champions destroying Thanos shield without a power gem and destrying a planet without power gem.I have seen juggs up against the wall with his old buddy Tom sucking the life out of him and there he was certainly hurting as well............
As well as the Exemplars busted his arse up badly until the Avengers came to help him.
Once again knocked out as well after Nimrod Knocks off his helmet and knocks him out..................Juggs has been stopped in the past sorry but its the truth, just not one that you like to hear. LOL Venom pimped slapped Juggs away and Juggs wouldn't even hurt him...............pfft yeah look out Champion.
Wow you do enjoy telling stories, i will address all the false info you have given us.
He had the power gem when he was fighting Thanos, thats why they were fighting.
That scan you posted was after he lost his powers, so thats irrelevant
Are you talking about the same Exemplars that beat the whole Avengers team down? After Juggernaut had to defeat them all by himself just to save the world? the same time Juggernaut almost destroyed the earth by pushing someone? This must be what your talking about
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp195qg.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp252sg.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp305sx.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp318bm.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp328ck.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp363ld.jpg
Yea, that must be what your talking about. Keep in mind each exemplar is far stronger than Thor.
Nimrod didn't knock Juggernaut out physically, so thats irrelevant.
So this is the Venom fight your talking about? this is a hyped up venom, and he still gets nearly killed.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01157ea.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01160cj.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01177dn.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01203wh.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01219by.jpg
Stop giving false information
I might be mistaken but what gem did Thanos ask for from Champion in this scan?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/cha141li.jpg
I don't have to show anyone defeating Juggernaut.......................why is that so difficult for you to get through your head?
Juggernaut gets bounced around from guys FAR FAR under Champions ability to fight as well as his power and durability. There will be no "winner" in this match however there will be a fighter that gets bashed, tossed around the most and that will be Juggernaut or they can sit there all day and Juggernaut can force field himslef and then that amounts to nothing in a match up for h2h...........................
I didn't lie about a thing🙂 Juggernaut was put down before the avengers got there...................go figure.
Keep in mind each exemplar is far stronger than Thor.
If they all were stronger than Thor why did:
-Thor defeat Tempest?
-Ironman survive fighting with Inferno?
And there's no way Carnivore could take Thor out. Better luck next time.
Nimrod didn't knock Juggernaut out physically, so thats irrelevant.
So this is the Venom fight your talking about? this is a hyped up venom, and he still gets nearly killed.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
You just keep bringing up false situations, and then when someone ask you to give us a scan of what you claim(like Juggernaut being thrown around in a fair fight) you cant do it.
You know I would post more scans but you just cry PIS, I have posted showings of Juggs being thrown by hulk, being dropped to his knees by professor hulk, Venom slapping him away, War Hulk throwing him. All scans I brought to the table.
Its time you stop saying what I haven't done and start to show me where a Classic Juggs has been able to take on a low Sky father powered who is mastered all h2h in the universe for over 2 billion years a being who is Immortal by virtue of fighting and being cursed by death to immortality with the Power Primordal.
This is Classic Juggs and you keep throwing in 8th day, Classic........show me.
😉
Originally posted by Soleran
He gave up those powers.................or better yet show me him using those powers. Since this is a focused Juggernaut.................I never asked is this Champ with the power gem?Which by the way Jugg's isn't Immortal and he will lose simply for that fact................or did you guys just ignore that because you cannot show otherwise? Also Juggs cannot attack with his shield up so thats a moot point in a war of attrition its Champion on top.
Um, didn't it prove that Juggs was immortal, when he was just a skeleton, yet kept fighting?
HHMMM?
How many times do I have to tell you that Classic Juggernaut, and 8th day Juggernaut are the same? I didn'y say anything was PIS, all you did was bring up fights that had catches to them. Not strait up fights, because you know you couldn't find a scan that had Juggernaut losing a fight. You didn't even give a scan for the Venom fight, I did.
Here go's the Classic Juggernaut scan you wanted.
BTW, thats Stranger
Originally posted by Soleran
Did you post those scans just to defeat yourself. LOL Those are the same shields he broke though that helped Thanos take a shot from Galactus and live, he broke them. He BLEW up a planet with one shot! He survived the Destruction of said planet. He is immortal and since then cursed by death to NOT EVER DIE.Then you conveniently show everyone his massive power WHICH is FAR beyond anything Juggs.
Yes that scan there best describes your approach on this subject.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/cha100ll.jpgJuggernaut has been tossed around by the Hulk and hurt by others. Cyttorak has never given Juggs unlimited anything except durability. I have proven he ages.........therfore this Elder once again gets a punching bag until Cain dies of old age. Thank you school is out now
PS those scans really did just defeat your entire purpose.