Juggernaut (vs) Champion

Started by Soleran15 pages

time for you to back track the thread I have already posted proof, your just lazy.

Also No Where have I read Juggs shield is stronger then Thanos, that would be made up by you same with immortality.

[QUOTE=6344632]Originally posted by Soleran
[B] Beast ripped off his helmet and his hatred turned to fear! He aged and ran away...............The dimension made a deal to give him back his youth if Juggs gave up his knowledge of the Crimson cosmos (ala hand beams for you Juggs newbs) and return him to his home. He isn't immortal at ALL. Get your stories powers right.

i have them right, i own them all. juggernaut doesnt age as long as his (powers are functioning properly). put it in parenthesis, just so you dont miss it.
i simplified it, so your mind isnt stretching trying to engulf the truth of the reality around you. juggernauts powers are based on the laws of 616 universe/dimension. as long as he's there, he will be forevermore a human juggernaut. forever... being the keyword.

Have you ever read the inscription on the Gem of Cyttorak? hold on I might be able to find it for you.

"Whosoever touches this gem shall be granted the power of the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak! Henceforth, you who read these words, shall become ... forevermore ... a human juggernaut!".

Ok what does forever mean? here I can find that for you to

for·ev·er (fôr-ĕv'ər, fər-)
adv.
1.For everlasting time; eternally: can live forever.
2.At all times; incessantly: was forever complaining about the job.

That should be enough for you

How is Juggernaut not stronger than Thanos? when did Thaos strength become unlimited? I dont know why I have to keep telling you but Juggernaut is far stronger than even Thor. There only one feat that I need to tell you that describes thor's strength. "Midgard serpent" yea the snake that wrapped around the world twice.

Here go's the proof that Juggernaut is stronger than Thor

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor3.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor6.jpg

You see, Thats Thor at full strength with his belt that doubles his strength, nearly being killed by Juggernaut with a hug.

Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Fight takes place in New York

This is Juggernaut focused, and Champion is mad no prep

No bfr fight till the death

Debate

Goddang it, does Champion have his Power Gem? plz state whether he does or doesn't plz. it makes a huge difference. No PG Champion loses. Champion w/PG beats Juggy.

It really doesn't matter either way. If he had it or not he cant hurt Cain

Re: Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion

Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
Goddang it, does Champion have his Power Gem? plz state whether he does or doesn't plz. it makes a huge difference. No PG Champion loses. Champion w/PG beats Juggy.

I have already asked that 2 times now..............Once again though Cain has never shown a feat higher then Champions destroying Thanos shield without a power gem and destrying a planet without power gem.

I have seen juggs up against the wall with his old buddy Tom sucking the life out of him and there he was certainly hurting as well............

As well as the Exemplars busted his arse up badly until the Avengers came to help him.

Once again knocked out as well after Nimrod Knocks off his helmet and knocks him out..................Juggs has been stopped in the past sorry but its the truth, just not one that you like to hear. LOL Venom pimped slapped Juggs away and Juggs wouldn't even hurt him...............pfft yeah look out Champion.

Re: Re: Re: Juggernaut (vs) Champion

Originally posted by Soleran
I have already asked that 2 times now..............Once again though Cain has never shown a feat higher then Champions destroying Thanos shield without a power gem and destrying a planet without power gem.

I have seen juggs up against the wall with his old buddy Tom sucking the life out of him and there he was certainly hurting as well............

As well as the Exemplars busted his arse up badly until the Avengers came to help him.

Once again knocked out as well after Nimrod Knocks off his helmet and knocks him out..................Juggs has been stopped in the past sorry but its the truth, just not one that you like to hear. LOL Venom pimped slapped Juggs away and Juggs wouldn't even hurt him...............pfft yeah look out Champion.

Wow you do enjoy telling stories, i will address all the false info you have given us.

He had the power gem when he was fighting Thanos, thats why they were fighting.

That scan you posted was after he lost his powers, so thats irrelevant

Are you talking about the same Exemplars that beat the whole Avengers team down? After Juggernaut had to defeat them all by himself just to save the world? the same time Juggernaut almost destroyed the earth by pushing someone? This must be what your talking about

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp195qg.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp252sg.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp305sx.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp332kl.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/jug8thdayp363ld.jpg

Yea, that must be what your talking about. Keep in mind each exemplar is far stronger than Thor.

Nimrod didn't knock Juggernaut out physically, so thats irrelevant.

So this is the Venom fight your talking about? this is a hyped up venom, and he still gets nearly killed.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01157ea.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01160cj.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01177dn.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/venomthemadness01219by.jpg

Stop giving false information

I might be mistaken but what gem did Thanos ask for from Champion in this scan?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/cha141li.jpg

I don't have to show anyone defeating Juggernaut.......................why is that so difficult for you to get through your head?

Juggernaut gets bounced around from guys FAR FAR under Champions ability to fight as well as his power and durability. There will be no "winner" in this match however there will be a fighter that gets bashed, tossed around the most and that will be Juggernaut or they can sit there all day and Juggernaut can force field himslef and then that amounts to nothing in a match up for h2h...........................

I didn't lie about a thing🙂 Juggernaut was put down before the avengers got there...................go figure.

Power Gem.

lol yeah now I am busted on that one🙂 I was just using a crappy comic that was wrong🙂 oh well lol.

Keep in mind each exemplar is far stronger than Thor.

That's bs and you know it as well as I do. At least I hope you do.

If they all were stronger than Thor why did:
-Thor defeat Tempest?
-Ironman survive fighting with Inferno?

And there's no way Carnivore could take Thor out. Better luck next time.

Nimrod didn't knock Juggernaut out physically, so thats irrelevant.

Here I fully agree with you. It was a lame fight anyway...

So this is the Venom fight your talking about? this is a hyped up venom, and he still gets nearly killed.

Second point with what I agree with. How come did Venom manhandle Juggernaut in that comic? Juggy beat the living hell out of Venom and Venom was able to hit like three punches, which didn't even inflict any damage...

You just keep bringing up false situations, and then when someone ask you to give us a scan of what you claim(like Juggernaut being thrown around in a fair fight) you cant do it.

You just keep bringing up false situations

Was that for me? If so, just ask for a scan of a situation that I didn't clearly state and I'll give you one. From what universe is the Juggernaut in your sig? Ultimate?

It wasn't for you, and yea it's Ultimate. The reason I said they were all stronger than Thor is because the one called Stonecutter was able to hold the whole team of Avengers captive.

Thought it looked so familiar...

But really, if exemplars are above Thor, why did Thor take down Tempest? And why was IM able to tangle with Inferno after fixing his armor a bit? And do you think Carnivore could win Thor?

Originally posted by soujaboy09
You just keep bringing up false situations, and then when someone ask you to give us a scan of what you claim(like Juggernaut being thrown around in a fair fight) you cant do it.

You know I would post more scans but you just cry PIS, I have posted showings of Juggs being thrown by hulk, being dropped to his knees by professor hulk, Venom slapping him away, War Hulk throwing him. All scans I brought to the table.

Its time you stop saying what I haven't done and start to show me where a Classic Juggs has been able to take on a low Sky father powered who is mastered all h2h in the universe for over 2 billion years a being who is Immortal by virtue of fighting and being cursed by death to immortality with the Power Primordal.

This is Classic Juggs and you keep throwing in 8th day, Classic........show me.

😉

Originally posted by Soleran
He gave up those powers.................or better yet show me him using those powers. Since this is a focused Juggernaut.................I never asked is this Champ with the power gem?

Which by the way Jugg's isn't Immortal and he will lose simply for that fact................or did you guys just ignore that because you cannot show otherwise? Also Juggs cannot attack with his shield up so thats a moot point in a war of attrition its Champion on top.

Um, didn't it prove that Juggs was immortal, when he was just a skeleton, yet kept fighting?
HHMMM?

How many times do I have to tell you that Classic Juggernaut, and 8th day Juggernaut are the same? I didn'y say anything was PIS, all you did was bring up fights that had catches to them. Not strait up fights, because you know you couldn't find a scan that had Juggernaut losing a fight. You didn't even give a scan for the Venom fight, I did.

Here go's the Classic Juggernaut scan you wanted.

BTW, thats Stranger

He lied, and said that Champion was immortal, yet he nearly died when Thanos threw him to another planet

Originally posted by Soleran
Did you post those scans just to defeat yourself. LOL Those are the same shields he broke though that helped Thanos take a shot from Galactus and live, he broke them. He BLEW up a planet with one shot! He survived the Destruction of said planet. He is immortal and since then cursed by death to NOT EVER DIE.

Then you conveniently show everyone his massive power WHICH is FAR beyond anything Juggs.

Yes that scan there best describes your approach on this subject.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thanos%20Feats/cha100ll.jpg

Juggernaut has been tossed around by the Hulk and hurt by others. Cyttorak has never given Juggs unlimited anything except durability. I have proven he ages.........therfore this Elder once again gets a punching bag until Cain dies of old age. Thank you school is out now

PS those scans really did just defeat your entire purpose.


I'm sorry, but no.
Champion has a lot of potential, but he is a loser.
Any character can have crazy power, but if they can't use it properly, (Champion), they will lose a LOT.
Champion may have tons of power, but for whatever reason, he sucks. I don't know what arguement to use for this, because I like Champion. But, he still sucks, and that has to be taken into consideration when looking at history and feats. There are a LOT of guys that can destroy the earth, but they chose not to, and we never see them do it. Why? Because they LIVE ON IT!
Anyway, it is sad what has been done to Champ, but it is still fact. For the sake of argument, let's just say that he has a mental block placed there by Death when he got cursed, which forever keeps him from enjoying victory. How's that?
When looking at history and their fighting records, Juggs is "proven".