Science and God

Started by Blue nocturne7 pages

Originally posted by Mindship
Quantum fluctuations as fractals, universes within universes.

And if there is a God, then this whole fractal organization is just the hardware of infinity. The software is the Consciousness which transcends but includes it.

Is That aspect of God forever beyond Science?

Science is simply to know, if we somehow transcend 4d perspective then we could know.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Everything you read is open to interpretation. That's why we have all the 100's of denominations all pointing their fingers at each other saying YOUR WRONG and WE'RE RIGHT......What should be done is looking not in the bible, but looking into how the bible came to be, and what were the circumstances at the time, what and are the similarities to earlier writings by other groups...Then go back to the bible and see it for what it is and what you can gleen from it...

* done that... even in the earliest of those writings contains almost the same spirit of the Bible we use today... 😉

* what varies is the interpretations of different denominations of religion... so i say, we should just read and not interpret... 😉

According to my most recent reading on sting theory...Our universe has 9 dimentions (1st time and then 8 space), but 11 are possible (1st time and 10 space).

Originally posted by peejayd
* done that... even in the earliest of those writings contains almost the same spirit of the Bible we use today... 😉

* what varies is the interpretations of different denominations of religion... so i say, we should just read and not interpret... 😉

Peejay the bible is 66 books 39 of those books originated from the Jewish religion, which refutes Christ as the messiah so how is the bible a valid book when it contradicts it's self horribly?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Peejay the bible is 66 books 39 of those books originated from the Jewish religion, which refutes Christ as the messiah so how is the bible a valid book when it contradicts it's self horribly?

* where in the Bible that refutes Christ as the Messiah? 😕

Jesus was never thought to be divine until that blasted council of Nicea....get it, got it, good! 📖

Originally posted by debbiejo
Jesus was never thought to be divine until that blasted council of Nicea....get it, got it, good! 📖

* yes... for the Catholics... 😉

* for the Christians...

"And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God , and eternal life."
I John 5:20

* Christ is a true God... 😉

No 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
[B...* Christ is a true God... 😉 [/B]

Yes I agree, however, I am a true God and you are also a true God.

Yes, and don't forget about all the editing done in the bible.........And I'm also god!!!

Before there was anything "I AM"...........We all were! We were IMO apart of the source of energy that split off to create what is now before us...All living things have energy, all things are connected at the sub particle level (visible and invisible), and all things act and react to each other. We affect each other...We should take responsibility for that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes I agree, however, I am a true God and you are also a true God.

Hooray for humanism!

Originally posted by debbiejo
...We affect each other...We should take responsibility for that.

Responsibility?! Dear lass, we don't even wanna take responsibility for ourselves. That's why we sue McDonald's cuz "They made me fat!"

Responsibility: longest 4-letter word in the American language.

Originally posted by Mindship
Responsibility?! Dear lass, we don't even wanna take responsibility for ourselves. That's why we sue McDonald's cuz "They made me fat!"

Responsibility: longest 4-letter word in the American language.

What is funny; the only way to true personal power is through self responsibility. So, we run from the only way to self power , and then complain because we are powerless in our lives. 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What is funny; the only way to true personal power is through self responsibility. So, we run from the only way to self power , and then complain because we are powerless in our lives. 🙄

True enough, sir. Sadly, true enough.

Do I smell a spiderman quote....?

Only it should have a first part.

"Through great responsiblilty, comes great power"
Parker: "With great power, comes great responsibility"

Therefore, once you start becoming accountable, you are on a never ending path to power, unless you become less responsible along the way.

"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many , and lords many,)"
I Corinthians 8:5

* there are many gods... 😉

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High ."
Psalms 82:6

* the children of God are called "gods"... 😉

"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came
, and the scripture cannot be broken;"
John 10:34-35

* people unto whom the word of God came are called "gods"... 😉

"God that made the world and all things therein , seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"
Acts 17:24

* but our Creator is God the Father...

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God ."
John 3:18

* and His only begotten Son, Christ is also a God... 😉

or we can just be humanist and say that man is the ultimate unto himself...

Yes. That's better.

In my opinion I think science and religion go hand in hand. In fact recent scientific discoveries are starting to support the idea that God created the Earth (And also many recent discoveries suggest that man may have never evolved from ape)

I believe that God created everything and I am a born again Christian. I believe that science tends to ask how and religion asks why when it comes to these many different subjects in our life. They can sometimes conflict with and sometimes help each other.

Many people use different theories to convey the idea that only one can be right, but I disagree. I believe everything the Bible says to be true (In my opinion some is literal and some of it is to be interpreted but thats a different subject 🙂 ) I also believe that whatever true scientific theories exist in the world can work with other faiths.

Originally posted by willRules
In my opinion I think science and religion go hand in hand. In fact recent scientific discoveries are starting to support the idea that God created the Earth (And also many recent discoveries suggest that man may have never evolved from ape)

Which recent scinetific discoveries? Who made them? Where have they been published?

Originally posted by The Omega
Which recent scinetific discoveries? Who made them? Where have they been published?

sorry I don't know the sources they came from, it was on a documentary I watched recently. 🙁

It was quite interesting though, it was fairly unbiased and tiptoed around the sensitive subjects between religion and science. There was a talk on how a scientist in America discovered that the genetic traits shared between man and ape were a lot less than originally intended and that if there was any connection it was more likely that man and ape are distant cousins 🙂