Its good that you keep your faith flexible enough to work with science.
I would also question the validity of that study. The human genome was done in 2003 and the Chimp one had a rough draft that same year. If you cant tell us anything about this? Where did you see the documentary? In what month? On what channel/program? Who narrated it? Who did it feature? Was this study published and if so where? Any of this would be helpful.
they are not transformers. Evoloution is commonly misunderstood as having a direction. Some aspect of evolution involve a similar process where species as a whole develop new general characteristics, but that doesn't quite describe speciation (the development of a new species).
Long story short, humans and apes (most recently chimps) shared a common ancestor. Two groups of this ancestor then evolved along different paths (likely through sexual segregation, mutation, all the usual culprits), one becoming modern humans (through various other species adn sub-species) and one becoming modern chimps (likely throuhg a similar process, but I don't know off hand). It is exceeedingly unlikely that this common ancestor was any more similar to a chimp than to a human. Both species evolved after the speciation event. its a common misperception to see one evolving from the other.
Originally posted by peejayd
* evolution... humans came from apes... how come there are still apes now? aren't they supposed to evolve into humans?
It's like a tree pee jay, each said organism branched off in a seperate direction to fit their enviorment via natural selection of survival traits. well that's the theory.
Originally posted by peejayd
* where in the Bible that refutes Christ as the Messiah? 😕
Where was Ezekiel to announce his coming, when was he a king with the government on his shoulders, etc read the bible .
Originally posted by peejayd
"For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many , and lords many,)"
I Corinthians 8:5* there are many gods... 😉
"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High ."
Psalms 82:6* the children of God are called "gods"... 😉
"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came , and the scripture cannot be broken;"
John 10:34-35* people unto whom the word of God came are called "gods"... 😉
"God that made the world and all things therein , seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"
Acts 17:24* but our Creator is God the Father...
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God ."
John 3:18* and His only begotten Son, Christ is also a God... 😉
Try quoting the old testament.
Originally posted by peejayd
* evolution... humans came from apes... how come there are still apes now? aren't they supposed to evolve into humans?
Humans did not evolve from apes; humans are apes. We are Hominids, and Hominids are a type of ape.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Where was Ezekiel to announce his coming, when was he a king with the government on his shoulders, etc read the bible .Try quoting the old testament.
"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting ."
Micah 5:2
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given : and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Isaiah 9:6
* is this enough? 😉
Originally posted by peejayd
"But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting ."
Micah 5:2"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given : and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
Isaiah 9:6* is this enough? 😉
When did Jesus have the government on his shoulders, he was not a king at all.
And again where was Ezekiel???
Originally posted by debbiejo
So he's his own father........lol........How can a person do that?......OH oh, I know....All things are possible with god........And as for Prince of Peace.......He could of been until the church interfered with his teachings....
Male child from a virgin birth = not possible.
Jesus was his own father = not possible.
Jesus resurrection = misunderstood - reincarnation.
Originally posted by Mindship
1. Can Science, theoretically, be used to prove the existence of God?
2. If so, how?
3. If not, why?Stumbling blocks:
a) Is Science defined by Method or by nature of proof?
b) Can God be operationally defined?Specifically, I'm asking: If empirical proof is sought, but "God" is generally seen as Spirit (ie, nonempirical), how do we reconcile? Can this be reconciled?
And if it can't be reconciled, which better reflects Occam's Razor:
I - God can't be scientifically tested for, ergo He doesn't exist.
II - God can't be scientifically tested for. Period. His existence is still open, and will always be open, to question.
Because my outlook on the God and Science is different, half of this question does not apply.
As far as ''God'' goes for me - it is everything. It isn't ''a particular thing/being'' its everything...and such includes science.
Thus, science is God and God is Science. How do you prove everything...and more importantly why prove everything?
Why 'prove' God at all?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Because my outlook on the God and Science is different, half of this question does not apply.As far as ''God'' goes for me - it is everything. It isn't ''a particular thing/being'' its everything...and such includes science.
Thus, science is God and God is Science. How do you prove everything...and more importantly why prove everything?
I'm not alone in the world. That is exactly how I feel about God. Lets form our own religion. 💃 😆
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Because my outlook on the God and Science is different, half of this question does not apply.As far as ''God'' goes for me - it is everything. It isn't ''a particular thing/being'' its everything...and such includes science.
Thus, science is God and God is Science. How do you prove everything...and more importantly why prove everything?
Why 'prove' God at all?
This pretty much sums up how I feel.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
When did Jesus have the government on his shoulders, he was not a king at all.And again where was Ezekiel???
* why do you keep asking for prophet Ezekiel? 😕
"Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world : if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."
John 18:36-37
* Christ's kingdom is not of this world... 😉