It's not God.
It's the people who attempt to speak for him.
I beleive that people who claim to know the Will of God are fools.....no one can speak for such a being, NOBODY knows he exists, theres no proof of it.
Religion....is it all its cracked up to be ?
If religion serves as a pesonal source of comfort, strength, and works for the person...its wondorful.
If religion serves as a political tool in an attempt to dictate the lives of other people....its horrible.
sin is a lousy word that is too wrapped up in religous connotations to have any real public menaing.
Originally posted by peejayd
* don't take it the wrong way, and don't even justify killing... a person with sane mind, with Christ's teachings, even in times of great persecution will not resort to killing... 😉
Jesus said: "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea." - Matthew 18:6.
See? Jesus wanted to kill people. And besides, most Chirstians have no problem with the death penalty. They even like it.
Originally posted by peejayd
* don't take it the wrong way, and don't even justify killing... a person with sane mind, with Christ's teachings, even in times of great persecution will not resort to killing... 😉
As for your no true Christian... retort I expect you to hang on to.
It' s always interesting to observe how religious believers want to associate themselves with the good things done by their co-religionists in other eras or cultures, but are so quick to disassociate themselves form co-religionists who do bad things. Responsibility is a two-way street. Your association with the good things done by other members of your group is just as strong as your association with the bad things done by members of your group.
Jesus’ teachings support plenty of good things, but Jesus’ teachings can also be used to support plenty of bad things. In the end, Christianity is comprised of the actions and beliefs of Christians because that’ s all that really exists. There is no pure form of Christianity sitting out there, against which all current and historical manifestations of Christianity can be judged.
Originally posted by Storm
As for your no true Christian... retort I expect you to hang on to.
It' s always interesting to observe how religious believers want to associate themselves with the good things done by their co-religionists in other eras or cultures, but are so quick to disassociate themselves form co-religionists who do bad things.
SO incredibly true. In a hundred years, the religous will ignore things done by the practictioners today and deny thier faith.
I beleive in a Hundred Years things will be very different. People's mind are opening more and more.
In the future, religious people will still keep thier Faith. However, aspects of thier Faith will change.
You remmeber how religious people centuries back thought that it was sinful to allow blacks to marry whites, let alone marry each other ?
In the future many religious people will realize that the Religious Societies in general made such a HUGE deal of something so small and only mentioned in the Bible, Torah and Quran so FEW times.....
There are already Christians, Jews, and even Muslims who TODAY don't care if someone is gay or not. They love them the SAME and beleive that every person....gay or straight....has the right to achieve happiness.
In the future, more religious people will understand many of them have been horribly SEXIST in thier discrimination against homosexuals and in thier beleif in the limitted role of women.
Originally posted by Alliance
sin is a lousy word that is too wrapped up in religous connotations to have any real public menaing.Jesus said: "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea." - Matthew 18:6.
See? Jesus wanted to kill people. And besides, most Chirstians have no problem with the death penalty. They even like it.
* wow...
"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Matthew 18:6
* maybe you know the meaning of, "it were better for him that..." Christ did not tell to kill the offender but it would be better for the offender that a millstone... etc...
* seeing that as your logic, i'll never be surprised if you never stop arguing... 🙄