The Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You have absolutley no idea what you are talking about.

That's what I said.

He just goes on as if to say "**** you! I know everything even though I've only taken one measley course in science and it sucked!"

Hm? Still no evidence of ID??
After page upon page upon page??
Not a single tiny shred of proof?

Blue Nocturne, you're credibility is dropping by the hour.

Originally posted by The Omega
Hm? Still no evidence of ID??
After page upon page upon page??
Not a single tiny shred of proof?

Blue Nocturne, you're credibility is dropping by the hour.

Originally posted by jaden101
no you didnt...you posted something showing that some things in the universe have mathematical similarities...i read no evidence of any designer

It was proof of common design pay attention.

Originally posted by jaden101

they only persist because we have the technology to allow them to persist...if humans were of a ferral state then these things would simply die out

How does technology allow them to persist, please elaborate.

Originally posted by jaden101

because almost all non beneficial mutations are weeded out by competition it is only the beneficial ones that survive...hence it makes it look like all mutations are beneficial and thus are someone "chosen"

Originally posted by The Omega
Hm? Still no evidence of ID??
After page upon page upon page??
Not a single tiny shred of proof?

Blue Nocturne, you're credibility is dropping by the hour.

I already posted it you guy's just refuse to read.

It was proof of common design pay attention

you didnt prove a designer...therefor you didnt prove a design...see how it works?

How does technology allow them to persist, please elaborate.

in humans we are able to allow for the care of people who would otherwise not survive

someone with diabetes can recieve insulin...without it they would die before they could reproduce

because we can prolong the life of that person their is a better chance of the diabetes genetic information being passed on and thus a negative trait maintained where it would otherwise die off

Chosen at random I might add,

the mutations aren't chosen at random because they aren't chosen at all...beneficial mutations persist in a population because they give a physiological advantage...detrimental mutations die off because the organisms that occur cant compete or even be born as is the case with many detrimental mutations

Chosen at random I might add, when we compare natural selection to artificial selection, Artificial selection wins since it's better at bringing out variates amongst species in a shorter period of time. Yet despite that no experiment conducted with controlled mutations and artificial selection can cause macro evolution.

well given that artificial selection has only been going on for a couple of hundred years yet has still provided a massive difference within a species and despite what you have said actually has produced what are regarded as new species then you haven't really made a valid point have you

so there is 'common design' in the universe.

Hey, both dinosaurs, and birds have the same type of hip. 'Common design'. Lots of people run when they see a wasp, 'Common design!'. Magenta and Yellow both have Red Pigment, 'Common design'. Could it just be, a 'natural law' that things are similar?

"For every 'action' there's an equal and opposite, 'reaction'." this applies to every force, not because they were 'designed', it's a law.

Originally posted by lord xyz
so there is 'common design' in the universe.

Hey, both dinosaurs, and birds have the same type of hip. 'Common design'. Lots of people run when they see a wasp, 'Common design!'. Magenta and Yellow both have Red Pigment, 'Common design'. Could it just be, a 'natural law' that things are similar?

"Natural law" That things are similar in design, from planets to organisms? eer

Originally posted by lord xyz

"For every 'action' there's an equal and opposite, 'reaction'." this applies to every force, not because they were 'designed', it's a law.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
"Natural law" That things are similar in design, from planets to organisms? eer

What does this have to do with a common design?

Originally posted by jaden101
you didnt prove a designer...therefor you didnt prove a design...see how it works?

Did you read what I said about a design gives info on the designer?

Originally posted by jaden101

in humans we are able to allow for the care of people who would otherwise not survive

someone with diabetes can recieve insulin...without it they would die before they could reproduce

because we can prolong the life of that person their is a better chance of the diabetes genetic information being passed on and thus a negative trait maintained where it would otherwise die off

And what exactly is stopping this mutation from randomly appearing again, within the same species?

Originally posted by jaden101

well given that artificial selection has only been going on for a couple of hundred years yet has still provided a massive difference within a species and despite what you have said actually has produced what are regarded as new species then you haven't really made a valid point have you

Um...dog breeding has been around before written history

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
"Natural law" That things are similar in design, from planets to organisms? eer

What does this have to do with a common design?

Well given that there is a limited number of elements in the universe and that the same forces are acting on all things

gravity and quantum physics then i guess you would expect things to evolve in a vaguely similar way

now if you want to go ahead and debate whether these forces are designed or whether they just are then that would need its own thread entirely

Originally posted by jaden101
Well given that there is a limited number of elements in the universe and that the same forces are acting on all things

gravity and quantum physics then i guess you would expect things to evolve in a vaguely similar way

now if you want to go ahead and debate whether these forces are designed or whether they just are then that would need its own thread entirely

Agreed let's not even go there 😆

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And again no it is not, just because you believe it is doesn't make it true. there is no intelligence required in evolution according to evolutionist? and also if evolution is a intelligent design then Evolution a property of ID

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Blue, who invented the intelligent design theory?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Blue, who invented the intelligent design theory?

I posted the origin already 🙁

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I posted the origin already 🙁

Originally posted by lord xyz
the greeks?

Intelligent design is trying to prove weather or not there is a god basically, It's been around for a while.

Originally posted by lord xyz
WTF? 🤨 evolution is 'natural selection'. Please will you notice words I put in 'inverted commas'. Natural selection means things are what they are through war of nature, survival, and 'changing their design themselves to fit the environment "NATURALLY".', you do understand that right?

Evolution is natural selection and random mutations.

Key parts: "trying to prove."

Haven't succeeded, nobody has or ever will. I'm not saying there isn't or is a god, but the common debate seems to be "God exists. How can you not see it?" "Er...because there's undeniably no solid proof?" "Nah, blind."

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Key parts: "trying to prove."

Haven't succeeded, nobody has or ever will. I'm not saying there isn't or is a god, but the common debate seems to be "God exists. How can you not see it?" "Er...because there's undeniably no solid proof?" "Nah, blind."

-AC

What is "IT" some old guy on a thrown with a long beard, again You have to know what it is first to prove it even exsit.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Key parts: "trying to prove."

Haven't succeeded, nobody has or ever will. I'm not saying there isn't or is a god, but the common debate seems to be "God exists. How can you not see it?" "Er...because there's undeniably no solid proof?" "Nah, blind."

-AC

"whether you 'agree' with intelligent design, or it just sounds ****ing crazy, DOESN'T MATTER! It's just not science."

Penn & Teller did a bullshit episode on Creationism and Intelligent design and that quote above is what Penn said.

Ahh, so your debate is "I don't know what I'm trying to prove, you can't prove it not to exist"?

Got yourself quite a shiny "Get out of jail free" card there, haven't you?

-AC