SuperBoy Prime Vs. Thanos

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Yes he did. One died and SMP did not. So yeah, SMP could beat a Guardian, since one's full power could not even seriously injure him.

2. So if Spiderman were to punch Galactus and make his lip bloody and throw him into a building but they Galactus kills Spiderman it would not be PIS? It was PIS, Superman Prime was able to easily beat Hal Jordan who>>>Superboy, yet Superboy gave him trouble.

3. No, SMP grabbed the Guardian and was in the process of dismembering his face with his bare hands. Yeah, one killed himself to kill SMP and SMP was not harmed. So yeah, SMP killed a Guardian. Guess Thor with the Power Gem isn't as powerful as SMP like you like to believe then, if he isn't even as physically powerful as Odin. Odin isn't physically as strong as SMP and broke the block physically, that's the point.

4. Nope. SMP was floating in space after we saw him rip Monarch's armor, and was taken from the past by TT.

5. Oh so now Thanos has the power to shoot blood out of his mouth? She drew blood from him. Deal with it. Yeah, Gamora can't put down Thanos, but SMP>>>>>>>>Gamora so...Who cares? Silver Surfer isn't much in terms of reflex speed. Prove a speedster can whoop on Thanos? How's about the fact that he is much slower than a speedster? 😬 SMP was poking holes in the Guardian's head, but that isn't hurting the Guardian? He had the Guardian by the throat while doing it. The friggin Guardian didn't grab SMP. It is the opposite. One BFRed SMP when he was trying to kill him and gave up his own life in doing so. And SMP could have easily returned, even before the amp he showed the power to traverse through dimensions and even time. So your point holds no water. He defeated a Guardian.

1. Again a Guardian killed himself and the result backfired. Prime didnt show us HE himself could defeat a Guardian under his own power.

2.So you are making up a scenario and by this you think you back up your stance. That never happened because its foolish. There is pis in comics this simply imo doesnt qualify. It happened Prime still didnt lose and its canon. Accept it.

3.Ok you obviously dont understand the difference between a suicide and a homicide. Thats the difference friend and once you realize that difference you will see my point. Thor defeated Strange,Surfer,and the Watch. No one committed suicide against him either. So unlike Prime he earned the victory. Prime simply couldnt escape the suicidal bfr and was lucky that he lived. The guardian miscalculated.

4.Prove it with a scan.

5.Thanos has bled before and still prevailed. When you prove thamaking a character bleed means you beat them you may have something but until then she proved she can cause a nose bleed is all. Nothing major. Thanos has already killed her before. I think we saw the nanosecond reactions by the Surfer. Thanos has dominated him. He also has crushed the Fallen One who was all over the place. Thanos easily crushes characters with speed. This has been proven time and again. Thanos beat a character with nanosecond reaction time. I have proven he can beat characters wit speed but you havent proven that speed dominates and beats Thanos have you?

Again the guardian killed himself. So the guardian defeated himself. Its pretty simple actually imo.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. SMP had his fingers in a Guardian's head. A little deeper they would be in his brain. He has proven he can kill one under his own power, you just don't want to admit it because then your precious Thanos might lose.

2. Can't find it honestly. Shit like that should be posted in Respect threads.

3. Considering one's full power could not kill him yeah he has. SMP had a Guardian by the throat with his fingers in his head, but he can't kill one? You don't have to answer that if you don't want to, I already know what your asnwer is gonna be. Fact is the Guardian could not harm SMP in any way with his full power.

4. No, it was a joke. We already know Monitor saved the sapling.

5. Sure he won't Quanchi. Thanos after his little uprade has like...What feats? And Odin barely exerted himself in his fight with Thanos, so bring it up all you want, it doesn't matter. Going through a Red Sun for a Kryptonian>>>A planet destroying blast as it would of course damage them and take away their powers at the same time. The Guardian's full power couldn't hurt SMP, it only helped him. Nothing to do with SMP? Or maybe SMP just has great energy absorption abilities? It was a statement by Hal Jordan, but one Guardian can also empower 100 GLs, so 100 GLs worth of power can't kill SMP.

That's a crock of shit. SMP wasn't running from fvcking anyone in Sinestro Corps. War when he was at his full power, He wasn't running from any GLs when he slaughtered them in Infinite Crisis. He didn't run from any Guardians either.

2.I called it. I knew you didnt have one.

3.Suicide does not equal homicide. We keep going over this. Please drop it. It was obviously a suicide that didnt have the results that the Guardian intended. Thats all.

4.I disagree.

5.Thanos defeated the Maker. A being who possessed infinite power. He traded energy shots and then raped her mind. His blast also floored the mighty Galactus. Id say these qualify as awesome feats. I have already stated the guardian stuff over and over again. Again it easily depowered him for a while. Thats my point. There is no way to depower Thanos. Destroying a planet seems to have little effect on Thanos as well because he won the fight with Drax that caused the planet's destruction. I go by feats not statements. If we go by statements alone we must GIVE SENTRY THE GALACTUS FEAT going by this logic.

He was going from character to character. He hit Superman but didnt defeat him,etc. It was mass confusion and when one Guardian grabbed him Prime was helpless to break away from the Guardian's grasp and wa easily bfr'd as I have said. Prime was running in infinite crisis. The gl's caught him. You do realize that was why they created the miles of willpower to slow him down to catch him. Prime was running away and they caught him.

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Originally posted by the Darkone
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Scenario 1 - Thanos 10/10 easily. Seriously, Thanos with prep vs. Prime with Prep? Lulz.

Scenario 2 - Thanos puts him down eventually.

thanos takes the first one prolly, the second one i dunno.

primes raw strength is insane but after i saw thanos duel with WM thor and the PG, i think thanos should win.

Speed will be a problem though i think for thanos.

Thanos wins with the prep but loses without.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos. He's went rounds with characters far superior to Prime. Prime seemed outclassed by Monarch and despite a last second armor tear he would have been owned.

The only real advantage Thanos has here as far as I can see is in intelligence and technique. The intelligence will help him in the prep fight, I'll give him that. But being a better H2H fighter wont make much difference given SBP's versatility and overwhelming power.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Again what's with you and thinking that because Prime didn't immediately one-shot someone (regardless of power) it means the guy was owning him? All things considered Prime did an amazing job against Monarch considering the guy had the power of 52 Captain Atoms and was a low level multiversal threat. Monarch isn't a low showing, at all.

Monarch was a threat because of his intentions and planning. He couldn't affect the multiverse by his power alone.

Originally posted by redhotrash
The only real advantage Thanos has here as far as I can see is in intelligence and technique. The intelligence will help him in the prep fight, I'll give him that. But being a better H2H fighter wont make much difference given SBP's versatility and overwhelming power.

Hes physically stronger and much faster for one. I'd put his laser vision against any energy blast Thanos can bust out, though I admit thats open to debate. I just think he has a lot more versatility. Hes like Superman to the 10th power and without any real weaknesses to speak of. Plus as long as hes within sight of the sun he'll constantly be recharging his power. The guy has simply done things that a Thanos cant without a massive amp, such as the IG. Thanos is a beast dont get me wrong, but hes matched up against Adam fricking Warlock before...

Originally posted by redhotrash
Hes physically stronger and much faster for one. I'd put his laser vision against any energy blast Thanos can bust out, though I admit thats open to debate. I just think he has a lot more versatility. Hes like Superman to the 10th power and without any real weaknesses to speak of. Plus as long as hes within sight of the sun he'll constantly be recharging his power. The guy has simply done things that a Thanos cant without a massive amp, such as the IG. Thanos is a beast dont get me wrong, but hes matched up against Adam fricking Warlock before...

How does he have more versatility when he's got the same old k-nian powers Superman has? He's just a lot more powerful than Superman. That's it.

Prime also relies on the sun moreso than Superman.

Thanos is more durable imo. He has shields, can attack his mind, and has affected more powerful beings than Prime has.

What has he done that Thanos couldn't accomplish with a massive amp?

The guy needed a lot of backup throughout legion of worlds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said it was I said Prime was outclassed. Prime also had an amp that was wearing off. Monarch was mocking him and already thought he killed him then foolishly allowed him to grapple his armor and the rest was history.

Hes physically stronger because as I mentioned, hes broken out of, and punched through things that Thanos simply cannot. Thanos mentioned not wanting to fight the Hulk...
He doesnt use his speed? Read the issue where he was basically wading through the earth Superheros, rocketing from 1 to the next.
Are you saying Superman himself isnt versatile? They basically gave him every power they could think of back in the 30s/40s when he was created. He has a laundry list of powers. All of primes are amped many times over, and again he has no real weakness.
Durability I find questionable. Hes been bloodied by Gammora, run through by Wolverine, downed by the Masterson version of Thor, and killed by Drax. Thanos attacking his mind is also very questionable for two reasons. 1. No one was able to attack his mind in SC, and 2. Thanos hasnt really demonstrated the ability to do so with any regularity.
Yes thanos has affected more powerful beings... WITH the IG, or a cosmic cube, or the HOTU, none of which he has here.
And of course he basically killed DC's equivilant of Galactus. Granted he was severely weakend, but on that same note I dont picture Thanos defeating a severely weakend Galactus to even it up.
Dont back Thanos just because you like him. Dont back him because you dislike SMP, look at this reasonably. Hell I like Thanos a lot more than SMP, but DC just wrote him more powerfully.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If Prime wasn't at least close to Monarch's level he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. When Monarch lifted his visor and blasted Prime he was shocked to find Prime had tanked the blast with only a minor complaint that it "really hurt" to show for it. Keep in mind Monarch (before even absorbing his fellow Captain Atoms) beat Chris Kent who had proven superior to Red Son Superman (who himself was close to PC levels) and yet he had his hands full with Prime. I agree that if it hadn't been for Prime ripping his armor open Monarch would have won but the fact Prime was able to fight him for so long indicates he was at least on his level.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Hes physically stronger because as I mentioned, hes broken out of, and punched through things that Thanos simply cannot. Thanos mentioned not wanting to fight the Hulk...
He doesnt use his speed? Read the issue where he was basically wading through the earth Superheros, rocketing from 1 to the next.
Are you saying Superman himself isnt versatile? They basically gave him every power they could think of back in the 30s/40s when he was created. He has a laundry list of powers. All of primes are amped many times over, and again he has no real weakness.
Durability I find questionable. Hes been bloodied by Gammora, run through by Wolverine, downed by the Masterson version of Thor, and killed by Drax. Thanos attacking his mind is also very questionable for two reasons. 1. No one was able to attack his mind in SC, and 2. Thanos hasnt really demonstrated the ability to do so with any regularity.
Yes thanos has affected more powerful beings... WITH the IG, or a cosmic cube, or the HOTU, none of which he has here.
And of course he basically killed DC's equivilant of Galactus. Granted he was severely weakend, but on that same note I dont picture Thanos defeating a severely weakend Galactus to even it up.
Dont back Thanos just because you like him. Dont back him because you dislike SMP, look at this reasonably. Hell I like Thanos a lot more than SMP, but DC just wrote him more powerfully.

The two times the Hulk has stood in his way he was bitchslapped and the second time overpowered along with the Thing.

He was using his speed to avoid them not fighting at superspeed. The only time he ever did was to avoid the flashes and try to counter them.

Name Prime's powers.

Prime's been bloodied by Krypto and Superboy. He's also been scarred for life by Superboy.

Thanos has also had Gamora murdered before and was messing around when he acted hurt. He wasn't hurt. Thanos has negated speed from the Fallen one.

Did anyone attempt to attack his mind?

Thanos has done so. Not saying he would do it all ten matchups but it is a tactic he can employ.

Prime bfr'd a severely weakened Am. Am wasn't even back to full power prior to his galaxy busting attack he absorbed.

Prime was unable to break free from the Guardian's suicide blast. That's not an impressive showing for strength.

I like Prime a lot. He's in my top five favorite characters his showings don't support him beating Thanos a single time.

With prime's new showings, I would say, Prime > Thanos, still same as before just now more so.

why is this a thread? STOMP!!!

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Stomp for Prime

I disagree. Imo, Thanos is a low level sky-father based on his fight with Odin. I think the diversity of his powers given him the advantage.