ufc/pride

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well to be fair, UFC is the only MMA organization that really matters. The UFC is like the NFL, and the other fighting companies are more like college and arena football.

There's a reasons that the UFC is the most famous and that everyone is trying to get into it. The others will never attract the crowds or celebs in the audience that UFC does. They're just a step below.

UFC is like WWE and the rest are WCW and TNA etc..

Its a fact.

Thats my take on it but Batdude and his lover Bran always troll me on this.

Originally posted by StyleTime
You could see it, but I prophesied it.

I agree. Most of the UFC-only crowd doesn't know that Jake Shields was already one of the top fighters in the world. He absolutely schooled Henderson, which a much larger Rampage couldn't do. Shields looked fresh the entire time, and last night he was about to pass out. I hope he can resolve the weight dropping issue; I really have a lot of matches I want to see him fight. Then again, I wouldn't mind seeing him back at middleweight either.

👆 I noticed that too.

I remember him saying "work" when Shields was doing a guard pass.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hendo that Shields fought looked like shit.

Hendo looked good, so did Shields.

One thing I am starting to not like about the UFC is when new big name fighters come in and fight 1-2 people they get a title shot. Brock comes in and bam, title shot. Shields fought like shit and now gets a title shot. But other people who have been fighting their asses off for a while needs to wait in line. its about the money and not fairness.

Question, does Fedor speak good English? I mean if he ever splits with his shitty management, is there any gym in the US that can train him?

Originally posted by The Nuul
One thing I am starting to not like about the UFC is when new big name fighters come in and fight 1-2 people they get a title shot. Brock comes in and bam, title shot. Shields fought like shit and now gets a title shot. But other people who have been fighting their asses off for a while needs to wait in line. its about the money and not fairness.

LMAO.

Jake Shields is on a 15 fight win-streak. I understand what you're saying, but don't use him as an example.

Originally posted by batdude123
LMAO.

Jake Shields is on a 15 fight win-streak. I understand what you're saying, but don't use him as an example.

Doesn't matter, Shields is going to get thoroughly owned when he fights Silva.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Doesn't matter, Shields is going to get thoroughly owned when he fights GSP.

Fixed.

And in any case, a fully-hydrated Shields can pose some problems, but yeah, I see GSP winning.

Theres more talk about GSP and Silva. Its even more possible if GSP and Silva win their next fights.

GSP will beat Sheilds.

Carwin vs Nelson WTF?????? Luckily Carwin pulled out or else he'd stomp Nelson even more so than JDS did.

Doubtful, as JDS is a much better technical striker than Carwin.

Originally posted by The Nuul
One thing I am starting to not like about the UFC is when new big name fighters come in and fight 1-2 people they get a title shot. Brock comes in and bam, title shot. Shields fought like shit and now gets a title shot. But other people who have been fighting their asses off for a while needs to wait in line. its about the money and not fairness.

Question, does Fedor speak good English? I mean if he ever splits with his shitty management, is there any gym in the US that can train him?

Also, Brocks wrestling credentials surpass many fighters who have been in the sport for some time. Understandable for Brock to get a titel shot.

Originally posted by batdude123
Doubtful, as JDS is a much better technical striker than Carwin.

And JDS vs Cain will be incredible.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah, apparently a lot of their fighters bump heads with Dana soon after signing on. I have a nephew from Yuma who went to high school with and wrestled with Efrain "Hecho en Mexico" Escudero and Edgar Garcia. He saw Efrain this past weekend in Yuma, and he tells me that Efrain went over to Bellator all because he had a falling out with the UFC bigwigs. And it had something to do with his image and the way Dana wanted to mold it.

I think part of it has to do with their ring-names. A lot of MMA fans who don't like UFC accuse them of turning into a celebrity sport with gimmicks, similar to pro-wrestling. Along with all the pre-fight testosterone posturing, trash-talk and dick-wagging in the promos that they use to advertise the upcoming fights.

And another parody. http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2075/danawiththeboys.jpg

Yeah. I appreciate what he has done for the sport, but his marketing has turn UFC into some of the stuff he claimed to be against. I remember hearing that they force lots of fighters to trash talk. It was sickening hearing a nice guy like Randy Couture trying to sound "tuff."

Originally posted by The Nuul
Brock comes in and bam, title shot.

Question, does Fedor speak good English? I mean if he ever splits with his shitty management, is there any gym in the US that can train him?

I imagine Fedor would still train in Russia. I remember his brother "officially" leaving their camp too, but he still trains them I believe.

Originally posted by batdude123
And in any case, a fully-hydrated Shields can pose some problems, but yeah, I see GSP winning.

Gabriel Gonzaga cut from UFC.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/21192/former-heavyweight-contender-gabriel-gonzaga-cut-by-ufc-following-loss.mma

Jose Aldo now in the UFC.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/21190/new-ufc-featherweight-champ-jose-aldo-defends-title-at-ufc-125.mma

Originally posted by The Nuul
Gabriel Gonzaga cut from UFC.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/21192/former-heavyweight-contender-gabriel-gonzaga-cut-by-ufc-following-loss.mma

Jose Aldo now in the UFC.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/21190/new-ufc-featherweight-champ-jose-aldo-defends-title-at-ufc-125.mma

Hurray! Jose is here! 😄

This is seriously one of the best trade offs ever! We don't have to watch Gonzaga anymore and we get to see Jose thrash people in the UFC! It's win ****ing win! 😄

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Mayhem outwrestles Hendo in the gym from time to time, if Mayhem could then by all means Shields should be able to. Thus the outcome of that fight.

Hendo looked good, so did Shields.

Anyway, do you not remember how pitiful his stand up was, not saying Hendo is a k1 level striker, but come on...

Originally posted by Mindset
No, Hendo looked like shit. Btw, Mayhem almost submitted Shields, so it's not like because Mayhem can do something Shields should be able to as well.

Anyway, do you not remember how pitiful his stand up was, not saying Hendo is a k1 level striker, but come on...

Shields stand up is awful, no doubt about it, but he has enough defense to eat only a few shots just to get the takedown.

I just explained why Hendo looked like shit, it's right there in the second part of my post.

Iirc Hendo had Shields rocked and he couldn't even finish him. That's not the same man who fought Wandy or even Bisping.

I don't know dude. I think you're looking at this wrong. Henderson didn't really seem any different than he normally does. Shields is just damnpersistent. Out of the few losses Jake even has, how many of them were due to KO's/TKO's?

There's also the argument that Wandy was on a downward spiral since Crocop dropped him and Bisping ran straight into Henderson's fist.

Who has Jake fought with ko power like Hendo? I was just using Wand and Bisping, there's many others I could use as well.

Hendo's fight with Jake is his worst performance I can remember. Jake is good, but so is everyone else Hendo has faced.