Originally posted by Robtard
Agreed, but IMO, he did it on purpose, he doesn't want to be using that account when Silva wrecks Sonnen for a second time and comes off looking like a complete *******.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You are already thinking ahead to Silva v Sonnen III? Because Sonnen's going to grind out a decision this week. 😈
Originally posted by vaderdeljisung
I'm sure eh'ss still aroudn somewhere... in spirit at least. 😄
Oh, and Silva vs Sonnen II is overshadowing a lot of good matchups tonight.
Ortiz/Griffin, Cung Le/Cote, Kim/Maia, Mendes/McKenzie.
What are everyone's picks for those? I won't even try to predict Tito vs Forrest, but I hope Cung Le walks away victorious. He has an exciting style and it'd be cool to see him against Silva at some point. I lean towards Kim against Maia, but I could see it going the other way. I'm picking Mendes, but that's another iffy one on paper.
I picked Mendes to win, but I did not expect him to beat McKenzie so easily. I expected Mendes's athleticism to evetually wear McKenzie down, but Mendes finished him less than a minute into the first round. That body shot was beautiful.
Edit: That was an unfortunate injury in Kim/Maia. I'd like to see a rematch at some point.
Cote looked terrible. Depressing. 🙁
Anderson attempting to grease himself up. facepalm
Chael... I mean... come on dude. When he threw that spinning back fist and then fell over, I facepalmed so hard. Nice work K1 Chael. Same thing Henderson did, easily won the first round with wrestling, then tried to trade in the second... because that is a smart idea.
Originally posted by vaderdeljisung
Predictions:Chad Mendez def. Cody Mackenzie via finish.
Dong Hyun Kim def. Demian Maia via decision.
Patrick Côté def. Cung Lee via decision
Forrest Griffin def. Tito Ortiz via TKO.
Chael Sonnen def. Anderson Silva via decision by at least 6 point differential.
Well it looks like these predictions were a ltitle off... 😮 lol
I thought Demian Maia looked absolutely sick against Dong Hyun Kim, he came out against this top welterweight prospect and took him down and finished him with ease, and even if there was no injury I don;t think it would have taken him long to get the submission or to remain on top and pound him out for a finish. Welterweight is definitely the right weight class for him for sure.
Also am I the only one who thought that Tito's takedowns looked sick against Forrest? He was taking him down with surprising ease imo and Forrest isn;t exactly a slouch, and in general he looked quite good rocking Forrest a few times and I thought he arguably should have got the decision. Thought Forrest was going to wealk through him before the fight as well so it was really surprising. Also, have to say that I found Forrest's behaviour after the fight really bizarre, and kind of stole Tito's moment from him. Running out of the Octagon before the decision was called was kind of stupid, but then giving Tito the interview (and it was kind of a bad one as well) after he's just beaten him and Tito probably just wants to get retirement interview from Joe Rogan as always wasn't really cool. They should have at least had Joe Rogan itnerview him afterwards but I don;t know maybe they didn;t have time.
Now for the main event... a few things. Anderson Silva did blatantly cheat with the patroleum jelly at the start of the fight, which is incredibly hard to wipe off and would have made him a bit more slippery. Even then after the first round I had a strong feeling that this fight was just going to go the same way as the last one did, but maybe I was a little too hard on Anderson's wrestling defence from before (I didn;t know his takedown defence % was actually that good, but then the countdown show revealed that he has best % in MW history), and he answered a big question mark by defending against the takedown well in the second round, though we dont know how well the vaseline contributed to that. That said he still has massive defencive problems on his back in that his guard isn;t very good and he has a tough time egtting back up to his feet (though he can be deadly from bottom position) and you have to remember thata s good a wrestler as Chael is he is still just a 1-dimensional wrestler and one without good ground and pound at that. Good GnP specialist could have finished the fight in the first. Also, that spinning elboew from Chael was freaking stupid and before he landed on his ass he could have continued to try and land a takedown and he could have ended up getting one.
I still maintain that he's definitely not #1 P4P in the world though. Think how someone like GSP, who's probably as good or even better an MMA wrestler as Chael is, but also has eltie standup and great Jiu-Jitsu as well would fare against him. He wouldn't get finished anywhere enar as easily as Chael did and he'd eb able to land the takedown just as consistently I think and would be able to dominate each round, plus he wouldn't be as vulnerable to a submission. Rashad Evans if he mvoed dowen to MW would also probably be just as bad a matchup. I also think someone like a MW Brock Lesnar, or a Cain velasquez would take him down with similar ease as well but porbably be able to finish him while on top as well. So I still defintiely don;t consider Anderson top P4P but he at least displayed somewhat better TD defence int his fight and he made finish look easily, so good on him.
How do people think Jon Jones would fare against Anderson Silva? Anderson Silva much better at defending the takedown from the clinch (in comapison to power double for example) and Jon Jones' wrestling is generally clinch based so he might not be as vulnerable to the wrestling,b ut at the same time it would be interesting to see hjow Anderson would fare against Jones's reach with the stirking. Plus we know that if Jones gets Anderson in bad position he has VERY good chance of finishing the fight.
Chad Mendez vs Cody Mackenzie
Mackenzie looked like a dude who is living in a trailer park, lol. Anyway, the fight lasted 31 seconds. The (very) better man won.
Dong Hyun Kim vs Demian Maia
Weirdest K.O. I've ever seen.
Patrick Côté vs Cung Le
Like Côté, I'm from the Province of Quebec, and I wanted so much a win for him. But he didn't seems there, at all... Côté had to close the distance and punch him in the face. He wasn't enough aggressive.
Forrest Griffin vs Tito Ortiz
For me, it was the fight of the night. We have seen a "vintage" Tito. He gassed up, he took a shotload of punches, but he stood there, and fough to the end. Also, Griffin is a weirdo/jerk.
Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva
LOL at the "grease" theory. Look: Sonnen got the takedown, but he wasn't able to mount Silva. In the second round, Sonnen only has him to blame for that ridiculous spinning back fist.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva
LOL at the "grease" theory. Look: Sonnen got the takedown, but he wasn't able to mount Silva. In the second round, Sonnen only has him to blame for that ridiculous spinning back fist.
He may have found it easier to get the TD in the second if Anderson wasn't greased. Also Anderson was blatantly cheating during the fight as well such as when he grabbed Chael's shorts and I wouldn't be surprised in his knee slightly grazed Chael's chin while he was downed. Anyway they are now 1-for-1 so they should have a rematch to settle the score for sure.
lol Chael Sonnen fans are the biggest clowns ive ever seen and also likely blind.The knee was perfectly aimed for the chest and entirely legal. The knee ddnt hit Chaels chin at all. The little bit of vaseline that Anderson applied from his face to his chest and arms....which was wiped off before the fight started.....is what helped him avoid getting taken down by chaels double leg in the second round....even though Chael already took him down in the first? I mean this crosses the borders of sanity and is completely asinine. lol at them being 1 for 1.
Listening to too much chael is clearly bad for mental health. SMH
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol Chael Sonnen fans are the biggest clowns ive ever seen and also likely blind.The knee was perfectly aimed for the chest and entirely legal. The knee ddnt hit Chaels chin at all. The little bit of vaseline that Anderson applied from his face to his chest and arms....which was wiped off before the fight started.....is what helped him avoid getting taken down by chaels double leg in the second round....even though Chael already took him down in the first? I mean this crosses the borders of sanity and is completely asinine. lol at them being 1 for 1.Listening to too much chael is clearly bad for mental health. SMH
Dude... the upper portion of leg directly above the knee hits Chael square in the face, and since you also can't kick a downed opponent in the face either, it should have been ruled an illegal move.
What helped Anderson stop the take downs in the second round was he was grabbing on to Chael shorts like his life depended on it. The greasing is just an embarrassing highlight of Anderson's mindset for the fight. 😎
lulz in no way and under no sane interpretation of the unified rules could that be counted as a "kick" to the head. That is delusional and one of the most laughable attempts to stretch the rules that I have ever seen. And yeah Anderson grabbed chael shorts but really that kind of stuff happens every fight, even Chael said he grabbed Anderson shorts and would grab some other guys shorts sometime in the future. Such stuff are the types of minor infractions that happen every fight. Same with hitting the back of the head during flurries of punches. Its not like it was a nutshot or eyepoke that took Chael out and if most Silva haters were not so butthurt they would just let it go...smh
Originally posted by MGSFAN4LIFE
I thought Demian Maia looked absolutely sick against Dong Hyun Kim, he came out against this top welterweight prospect and took him down and finished him with ease, and even if there was no injury I don;t think it would have taken him long to get the submission or to remain on top and pound him out for a finish. Welterweight is definitely the right weight class for him for sure.
Originally posted by Mangafan
He may have found it easier to get the TD in the second if Anderson wasn't greased. Also Anderson was blatantly cheating during the fight as well such as when he grabbed Chael's shorts and I wouldn't be surprised in his knee slightly grazed Chael's chin while he was downed. Anyway they are now 1-for-1 so they should have a rematch to settle the score for sure.
Originally posted by Naija boy
lol Chael Sonnen fans are the biggest clowns ive ever seen and also likely blind.The knee was perfectly aimed for the chest and entirely legal. The knee ddnt hit Chaels chin at all. The little bit of vaseline that Anderson applied from his face to his chest and arms....which was wiped off before the fight started.....is what helped him avoid getting taken down by chaels double leg in the second round....even though Chael already took him down in the first? I mean this crosses the borders of sanity and is completely asinine. lol at them being 1 for 1.Listening to too much chael is clearly bad for mental health. SMH
On a side note, I've grabbed shorts and had my own grabbed during sparring; however, it never really helped stop takedowns. At most, someone would get embarrassed when they are standing there in their underpants.