Originally posted by juggernaut66666
and he can also steal their abilities or just controll their abilites
No he can't, he blocked Cyclops and Mrs.Marvel's powers for all we know due to their genetics as Havok can't hurt Cyclops it's most likely the same way with their sibling as well. Guardian with one sweep could literally shut off his brain
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
how can he suck him in to the void if vulcan not allows him to use his powers?
Do you honestly think he can stop Shaman from using his magic? Come on now. Magical demons tried before and failed, why would Vulcan be able to when his powers arn't even magical. Not going to happen.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
[b]Shaman vs. Atomic Bomb
Avengers #323-324-After the Avengers set off a nuclear bomb that Russian terrorists hijacked, all the heroes and Newfoundland are about to be killed. However, Shaman's quick thinking saves everyone by inverting his poutch sucking everyone and even the land into it. He was already getting exhausted transporting people from Newfoundland far away from the possible blast area and then performed this feat. He held the dimensions for over 2 hours, what a beast. Problem is he couldn't release them earlier due to they all became poisoned by the radiation so he couldn't bring them through. He probally could have cleanzed them himself, but at this point he was already exhausted. They eventually get cleanzed and Shaman saves the day. Now that's a badass feat.1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/avengers_v1_323_01_rougher.jpg
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Originally posted by Soujaboy
Well you have some good points, but there is no way that they can stop him from just stealing and adapting to there powers.
Except he has never done that, and majority of Alpha Flight members don't have mutants powers they are technological based or magical. How can he steal their powers as he never has even really even been shown to do that? One look into the void and his mind is gone. He loses.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Except he has never done that, and majority of Alpha Flight members don't have mutants powers they are technological based or magical. How can he steal their powers as he never has even really even been shown to do that? One look into the void and his mind is gone. He loses.
Yeah he has stolen powers.
He didn't orginaly have psy powers then he did latter on.
Not to mention he stole the powers of his former teammates.
Vulcans not just omega level hes way above that.
He could adapt to the void and he'd be fine.
Plus the fact that he has psychic and time minpulation powers would keep him from ever having to rely on using his adapt ability.
And don't say he can't adapt to the void because so far he/Darwin has been able to adapt to everything.
Originally posted by Kool-Aid
Yeah he has stolen powers.He didn't orginaly have psy powers then he did latter on.
Not to mention he stole the powers of his former teammates.
Vulcans not just omega level hes way above that.
He could adapt to the void and he'd be fine.
Plus the fact that he has psychic and time minpulation powers would keep him from ever having to rely on using his adapt ability.
And don't say he can't adapt to the void because so far he/Darwin has been able to adapt to everything.
Stolden non-mutants? no. People with technological powers? no. People with magical based powers? no.
Who did he use psy powers on?
Unless I missed something how this happened was never fully explained yet.
and Alpha FLight has multiple omega level mutants, plus Dr.Strange level magic users. Multiple people who can speed blitz him even before he thinks. Vulcan doesn't stand a chance.
Pfft...no he wouldn't.
Alpha Flight has members that can block psychic attacks and members who can do all the things with time same as Vulcan. He has no advantage there at all. Magic trumps anything Vulcan could ever hope to dish out.
No he wouldn't, it's magical in nature he can't adapt to magical aspects. Even just taking a glimpse he would instantly lose his mind. Can't adapt when your mind is already gone
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
alpha flight mutants a far below omega level and don't compare shaman or talisman to dr strange cause they are nowhere to him
No their not, and Earthmover is said to be an omega level mystic. No again it was stated multiple times that Talisman is equal to Dr.Strange
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
he can just shut off guardians suit
Unlikely, as he would be speed blitzes before he even knows who he is fighting. Or banished by many of the other members of Alpha Flight as they are capable of this. They have way to much versilitity for Vulcan.
Alot of people seem to think Vulcan is a complete master of all his powers. In his original powers, the energy manipulation powers, he's obviously very skilled. In the others, the time stopping, geo-morphing ones, he's not. He only just got them. It's even stated in the comic that he doesn't know how to control them yet.
And alot of the ways people saying he can win, people on Alpha Flight (who have alot more experience) can do the exact same things. And more.
