Originally posted by Kool-Aid
I never said he could steal Stolden non-mutants, people with technological powers and People with magical based powers.You saying he can is wrong, cuz we don't know if he can or can't.
Though Profeeor X said Darwin can adapt to anything....so signs so far point to him being able rather then not.
Your right they do have omega level mutants.....for him to control.😉
Professor X isn't master of magic knowledge...
Originally posted by Kool-Aid
I never said he could steal Stolden non-mutants, people with technological powers and People with magical based powers.You saying he can is wrong, cuz we don't know if he can or can't.
Though Profeeor X said Darwin can adapt to anything....so signs so far point to him being able rather then not.
Your right they do have omega level mutants.....for him to control.😉
Others did, which is wrong.
No, but your all claiming he is so unbeatable creature making up a new powerset for him. He doesn't have any feats, while Alpha Flight routinely goes against Gods...literally. They have the experience, teamwork, speed, intelligence, etc.
As DC said, Prof X doesn't have magical knowledge.
Vulcan has never flat out controlled someone, your exagerating his powers
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, but your all claiming he is so unbeatable creature making up a new powerset for him. He doesn't have any feats, while Alpha Flight routinely goes against Gods...literally. They have the experience, teamwork, speed, intelligence, etc.As DC said, Prof X doesn't have magical knowledge.
Vulcan has never flat out controlled someone, your exagerating his powers
I'm not making up new powers for him.
I'm just going by what Deadly Genisis has so far said and showed.
I know X doesn't have magical knowledge, but he did say Darwin can adapt to anything.
We can't rule out that he can't adapt to magical attacks till its proven it does effect him.
I'm not exagerting, Vulcan did control Rachel, thats why she said the mind raping line in the link above.
Vulcan does have experince, maybe not completly with his new uber power set, but he trained with his team in the fake danger room.
Originally posted by Kool-Aid
I'm not making up new powers for him.I'm just going by what Deadly Genisis has so far said and showed.
I know X doesn't have magical knowledge, but he did say Darwin can adapt to anything.
We can't rule out that he can't adapt to magical attacks till its proven it does effect him.
I'm not exagerting, Vulcan did control Rachel, thats why she said the mind raping line in the link above.
Vulcan does have experince, maybe not completly with his new uber power set, but he trained with his team in the fake danger room.
I have the entire mini released thus far, and it has never shown him doing anything like what was mentioned in this thread this
Magical is a completly different science
That's fine, but no one can flat out claim he can. He has no feats backing up his claims. So far he is just all hype.
No controlling someone is using their power against them as a slave, he never did that. What he did was probe Racheal that's it. Talisman could summon the rest of the Great Beasts to battle Vulcan. She would destroy him.
As has Alpha FLight in the Danger Room Madison Jeffries created based off of the X-Men's Danger Room. Plus being trained by Department H and they know their abilities and have gone up against stronger foes than Vulcan before and won.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I have the entire mini released thus far, and it has never shown him doing anything like what was mentioned in this thread thisMagical is a completly different science
That's fine, but no one can flat out claim he can. He has no feats backing up his claims. So far he is just all hype.
No controlling someone is using their power against them as a slave, he never did that. What he did was probe Racheal that's it. Talisman could summon the rest of the Great Beasts to battle Vulcan. She would destroy him.
As has Alpha FLight in the Danger Room Madison Jeffries created based off of the X-Men's Danger Room. Plus being trained by Department H and they know their abilities and have gone up against stronger foes than Vulcan before and won.
He probed Rachel and he didn't previously have telepathic abilites(in his origin), plus stopped Cyc and Rachel from being able to use theres, thats controlling.
The reason he didn't use her any further was so she could escape and inform the others where they are.
That was part of his plan.
Thats great Alpah Flight trianed there, I wasn't trying to say he had more then them because he trianed there.
Saying that they beat stronger foes doesn't discredit Vulcan in any way....mostly because we don't know his full power level and the fact hes only been in 5 issues so far.
Originally posted by Kool-Aid
He probed Rachel and he didn't previously have telepathic abilites(in his origin), plus stopped Cyc and Rachel from being able to use theres, thats controlling.The reason he didn't use her any further was so she could escape and inform the others where they are.
That was part of his plan.
Saying that they beat stronger foes doesn't discredit Vulcan in any way....mostly because we don't know his full power level and the fact hes only been in 5 issues so far.
No that's hindering and we don't even know the full circumstances of his orgins. Controlling someone is making them your slave such as mind control and getting them to attack their fellow comrades. All the feats he has shown thus far various members of Alpha Flight can do, but on a greater extent. As said he doesn't even have full control of his powers, so that's another strike against Vulcan.
He manipulated her, but he never flat out controlled her.
Well considering they have battled sky fathers on more than one occasion, the chances for Vulcan are pretty slim to a well written Alpha Flight. Even if push comes to shove there are over 15 members who could simply just banish Vulcan away forever. Just because he is omega+ doesn't mean much as Elixir is Omega and is not very strong.