Originally posted by Milkie
Sniper > BatmanBatman is sneaking behind a some boxes. He is clear in a Snipers sight that is outside on a building. Batman is spying on 2 Seals then realizes that he is in the light that is reflected by the moon and can see the Snipers shadow of his upper body with the rifle. Just before he can duck behind some boxes...
Who said anything about there being snipers? 😕
Originally posted by Milkie
There has to be prep on their side if they are going to come after him. It's not like OMFG bATmaN IS iN TeH FaCtorY GO AND GETZ hIm!!!111!!1!@
Braz did not say that the team had prep. So the SEALS don't have prep. If Batman has the jump or their in a warehouse, Batman could win. And stop Batman, hating, it's getting annoying! 😠
Batman Begins batman has armor which covers him from head to toe, including his cowl, so if it was BB Batman in this fight, a headshot would be not be possible😛 but i do get what ur saying batdude, he DOES have better martial arts skillz, but not gadgets, id say theyre about even w/ gadgets in both but hes prolly smarter though too in the comics. and i guess, sure, there's snipers, it dont make a difference, how can u hit what u cant see?? Batman(comics)(and movie-BB)>10 Navy Seals. easy.
Originally posted by Milkie
5 Seals or enough to take out Batman
Guys, I was in the Army, and I know about special forces. I would've done them myself had there been any kind of future in it. Ok, Seals just do not match up well against Batman. They're trained to fight other soldiers/civilians/any kind of target for assasination/to do any other kind of specific mission like bomb a building, but none of them deal with how to take down someone like Batman, simply because the training for that would be very long and time-consuming, and there is basically no utility for it. Navy Seals will never encounter someone like a Batman, so they're not prepared to handle him. However, in an imaginary story like this, they will.
Now I'm assuming that we're just taking Batman, and putting him in the real world, and these wouldn't be comic Seals, that may possibly have been trained specifically to fight people like Batman or Deathstroke etc. So, they're walking into something very difficult, but there's 30 of them, and this is on the spot, so Bats will not specific enough gadgets to take down these types of numbers. However, they're fighting in a wharehouse, and they have to come to him. He'll be able to sight them, and they won't him. Since it's the movie Batman, I'm assuming that Bats armor will be completely bulletproof, because it looked like it was. It also depends on what Bats has. If they can just gas him, and he doesn't have a handy dandy little Batmask, he's toast, because they will. They'll probably have night vision, and all sorts of stuff. Bats, however, would be much greater at improvising with his surroundings than a Seal. These guys are good, but none of them are a Batman. In fact, if they had a team of Batman's it wouldn't work. They have specialists that make a cohesive unit.
Look guys, pending how big the wharehouse is, 30 is a lot. There's no way that they would have a group of 30 guys, trust me. They'd be sectioned off to 5 groups of 6 or something, because 30 would become distracting, and it would be completely disorganized. If it was 1 group of 30, Bats would have a blessing over 5 groups of 6. He may even be able to get them to take eachother out, or take 30 birds out with one stone so to speak. So, Batman could have a small shot over smaller groups. With prep, I'd say he's got more than a shot. Taking down a group of 6 ba's is something that Bats could feasibly do, but he'd have to do that 5 times, each time fatigueing himself.
I'll sum it up this way; Bats would only logically be expecting a confrentation with some people, and for Seals are not just on ready supply, they'd have to be called in. So even if Bats doesn't have 'prep-time', he'll still have some time before they can go in and get him. Or even if the guys were chasing him, and followed Batman into the wharehouse as soon as he went in there, he'd only jump in the wharehouse if he knew it was going to help his cause, and probably knew the wharehouse well. So on logic, I'd say that Batman is pretty familiar with his surroundings and has a good idea of what he's going to do with these guys. He'll set up traps or whatever, and as good as Seals are, they could easily fall to them. As long as Bats has a Batmask, or the Seals don't have gas, Batman will have a fighting shot. Pinpointing him will be difficult, and Bats is just the kind of guy to be creative enough to do this. Also, with these numbers, which again is unrealistic, if he was lucky enough, he'd be able to confuse them and take eachother out. If they shot him in the chin or face, that'd be his achilles heal in suit. That is something that could put a quick end to this fight. I'm assuming that their mission is to stop him by any means, which is easier than not being able to shoot at him, but Bats is invisible and it would be difficult for them to get a clean shot in.
I think I've talked enough, and considering everything, I'll actually take Bats 6/10. Now if it was a fist fight, 0/10, but it's not. Bats is extremely resourceful, and these guys wouldn't know what hit them, especially with numbers of 30, which I would actually think could be a disadvantage.
Originally posted by superman41082
Guys, I was in the Army, and I know about special forces. I would've done them myself had there been any kind of future in it. Ok, Seals just do not match up well against Batman. They're trained to fight other soldiers/civilians/any kind of target for assasination/to do any other kind of specific mission like bomb a building, but none of them deal with how to take down someone like Batman, simply because the training for that would be very long and time-consuming, and there is basically no utility for it. Navy Seals will never encounter someone like a Batman, so they're not prepared to handle him. However, in an imaginary story like this, they will.Now I'm assuming that we're just taking Batman, and putting him in the real world, and these wouldn't be comic Seals, that may possibly have been trained specifically to fight people like Batman or Deathstroke etc. So, they're walking into something very difficult, but there's 30 of them, and this is on the spot, so Bats will not specific enough gadgets to take down these types of numbers. However, they're fighting in a wharehouse, and they have to come to him. He'll be able to sight them, and they won't him. Since it's the movie Batman, I'm assuming that Bats armor will be completely bulletproof, because it looked like it was. It also depends on what Bats has. If they can just gas him, and he doesn't have a handy dandy little Batmask, he's toast, because they will. They'll probably have night vision, and all sorts of stuff. Bats, however, would be much greater at improvising with his surroundings than a Seal. These guys are good, but none of them are a Batman. In fact, if they had a team of Batman's it wouldn't work. They have specialists that make a cohesive unit.
Look guys, pending how big the wharehouse is, 30 is a lot. There's no way that they would have a group of 30 guys, trust me. They'd be sectioned off to 5 groups of 6 or something, because 30 would become distracting, and it would be completely disorganized. If it was 1 group of 30, Bats would have a blessing over 5 groups of 6. He may even be able to get them to take eachother out, or take 30 birds out with one stone so to speak. So, Batman could have a small shot over smaller groups. With prep, I'd say he's got more than a shot. Taking down a group of 6 ba's is something that Bats could feasibly do, but he'd have to do that 5 times, each time fatigueing himself.
I'll sum it up this way; Bats would only logically be expecting a confrentation with some people, and for Seals are not just on ready supply, they'd have to be called in. So even if Bats doesn't have 'prep-time', he'll still have some time before they can go in and get him. Or even if the guys were chasing him, and followed Batman into the wharehouse as soon as he went in there, he'd only jump in the wharehouse if he knew it was going to help his cause, and probably knew the wharehouse well. So on logic, I'd say that Batman is pretty familiar with his surroundings and has a good idea of what he's going to do with these guys. He'll set up traps or whatever, and as good as Seals are, they could easily fall to them. As long as Bats has a Batmask, or the Seals don't have gas, Batman will have a fighting shot. Pinpointing him will be difficult, and Bats is just the kind of guy to be creative enough to do this. Also, with these numbers, which again is unrealistic, if he was lucky enough, he'd be able to confuse them and take eachother out. If they shot him in the chin or face, that'd be his achilles heal in suit. That is something that could put a quick end to this fight. I'm assuming that their mission is to stop him by any means, which is easier than not being able to shoot at him, but Bats is invisible and it would be difficult for them to get a clean shot in.
I think I've talked enough, and considering everything, I'll actually take Bats 6/10. Now if it was a fist fight, 0/10, but it's not. Bats is extremely resourceful, and these guys wouldn't know what hit them, especially with numbers of 30, which I would actually think could be a disadvantage.
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He dropped the number down to 10 so it will be 2 groups of 5. Let's not think too hard about this. I don't think he'd be hard to find. It all depends on the setup of the warehouse. Is it dark, empty, broken down? You can only do so much in a warehouse. These guys probably got some info on ol' Bats and know how he operates so they probably bring in some nice toys also. You know there are going to be Snipers waiting outside of that warehouse somewhere just in case they all get aced. They can always call in reinforcements perhaps. IMO, Batguy dies if he is up against real life Seals if there are no BS plot devices. Batman is also going to be weighed down from all this crap he is carrying. That cape is going to make some sounds for sure. They may have thermal goggles so they can see him doing his jumping and flipping and hiding and what not.
How is an inexperienced Movie Batman too much for 10 Navy Seals when he had a hard time with Scarecrow in their first encounter in the movie?
Don't forget, SEALs carry hand held motion detector/sonar devices, as well as having sattelite GPS and infrared survelance support. All they have to do is have have a heat scan of the building and they know where Batman is.
This isn't comic Batman, this is Batman Begins Rookie Batman.
Seals win.