Batman vs 30 NAVY SEALS

Originally posted by batdude123
They're even in gadgets? 🤨 Batman from the comics has all of those gadgets from BB, plus exploding batarangs, electric batarangs, liquid nitrogen capsules, gas pellets, REAL sonic weapons (Not a sonic tracking system used to call bats. What the hell was that all about?), etc... As you can see, the Batman from the comic has much better gadgets. 😉

true, i did forget about the exploding and electric tracking batarangs, but he has gas pellets too. didnt know bout liquid nitrogen capsules 😕

Originally posted by braz
true, i did forget about the exploding and electric tracking batarangs, but he has gas pellets too. didnt know bout liquid nitrogen capsules 😕

Yeah, they're pretty tight. 💃 Plus the other things like the tracking batarangs as well. Anyways, Batman has plenty more than just those, but those were just a good start. He also has gas spray in his mask if someone tries to remove it. This is a pretty new addition to his gadgetry and it's pretty cool. I think that the writers just wanted to give the BB Batman his normal arsenal of equipment and stay away from his more exotic equipment.

braz check your thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f43/t398145.html

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, they're pretty tight. 💃 Plus the other things like the tracking batarangs as well. Anyways, Batman has plenty more than just those, but those were just a good start. He also has gas spray in his mask if someone tries to remove it. This is a pretty new addition to his gadgetry and it's pretty cool. I think that the writers just wanted to give the BB Batman his normal arsenal of equipment and stay away from his more exotic equipment.

yea they do sound tight, i just updated my profile on Bats already by adding them, sonics, electric/exploding batarangs, & flashbangs 💃

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
navy seals can snipe

In order for the Seals to snipe, they have to

1) Be able to visibly see the target

2) A 2nd reason won't matter because they won't see him

😐

The seals are some of the toughest guys in the world.

Bats should beat them, but not without maximum effort 😄

How would Captain America fare against 30 Real-life Navy SEALS?

Originally posted by Draco69
How would Captain America fare against 30 Real-life Navy SEALS?

He could beat them, but not without taking his lickings 😉

30 of them? thats 30 times the cuteness!

Originally posted by thisredbox

30 of them? thats 30 times the cuteness!

30 seals >> Bats 😐

They bounce him around like a beach ball 😛

Originally posted by superman41082
In order for the Seals to snipe, they have to

1) Be able to visibly see the target

2) A 2nd reason won't matter because they won't see him

Seal Senses

Whiskers
Seals search for food with their coarse , continuously growing whiskers.

Vision
Seals have very good vision in water. The eye must focus in both air and water so is very large and round.

Smell
Seals have a keen sense of smell in air, which allows them to detect predators.

Hearing
Seals hear very well in both water and in air.

Other seal facts:

Male gray seals are much larger than females, weighing 375 to 880 pounds and growing to almost ten feet long.

Gray seals dive up to 475 deep and can remain underwater for up to 20 minutes at a time.

Originally posted by spetznaz
I for one think that Batman could defeat 30 SEALs, as long as it is the comicbook Batman and not any 'realistic' depiction of the character (for example any of the movie Batmen are more 'realistic' depictions ....well, as realistic as realism is on celluloid).
Anyways, here is why a comicbook Batman would win.

A United States Navy SEAL is arguably one of the best trained special forces operatives in the world. While there are some services that may claim to be better (each service always claims to be the best), it can be easily asserted that there is no one BETTER than a SEAL (now, equal is another matter, and there are contenders to the throne ....for example the amazing British SAS and SBS, the Israeli Sayaret groups, and even the American Army Special Forces AKA Green Berets, and the Delta force. And there are other groups that either have a similar purpose even though they may not be at the same level or have the same exact combat orientation, for example the Russian Spetsnaz, Indian RAW, French GIGN etc).
Anyways, the SEALs are amazing elite soldiers.

However they are facing a comicbook character, and that is their downfall!
No matter how good they are in the real world they ARE in/from the REAL WORLD, and are facing a character that is not only a FICTIONAL character but a fictional character from COMICBOOKS.
In comics things are a little 'different.'
For instance the comic Batman can dodge a fullisade of bullets simply by feeling the over-pressure of air as the bullet rushes towards him.
He can throw his batarangs and snap flying arrows into two along their grain.
He has sufficient stealth to creep up on characters like Daredevil and White Martians.
He has faced off against Aliens (who BTW in Batman vs Aliens 2 had destroyed an entire squadron of special forces soldiers themselves).

Anyways, there are a myriad points I could use (the above are actually nothing), but it would be best to just point people to the Batman Respect thread.

In a nutshell .....the SEALs are amazing military combatants, but if they are facing the COMICBOOK Batman with all his various 'peak human' (ahem) abilities, then they will fail.

Anyways, here is the Batman Respect Thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f50/t363873.html

In real life people do not disarm a bunch of people who have their guns drawn around you in a circle, and do it so fast that not only do they not see it but they do not even fire a shot:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p4bae7579ff199808e2b06a218f2b84fc/fc24c27c.jpg

In the real world people do not take out helicopters with a knife they borrowed from a child:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/968/batcopter2.jpg

In the real world people do not throw a batarang BEHIND them without looking, knowing it will bounce off several surfaces and hit the target perfectly .....again, without even looking:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4968/batmark74sg.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2384/batmark89ww.jpg

In the real world people do not exhibit the following levels of strength:
http://www.geocities.com/revelator15/batduct.jpg

Anyways, the Batman respect thread (actually there is a better respect thread, but it is from a source outside the KMC and I do not know the politics of linking to external sources) has sufficient examples of Batman's abilities.

The SEALs are the peak of REAL WORLD human combatants, facing a character who is not only pure fiction but COMICBOOK fiction.
They do NOT have a chance in hell of winning.
Not a chance .....I give Batman 10/10 (WITH THE CAVEAT BEING THAT THIS IS THE COMICBOOK BATMAN .....or for that matter comicbook Daredevil, comicbook Spiderman, comicbook Elektra etc etc etc etc etc .....against real world forces, all of them would be like bloody witchdoctors. Actually it reminds me of that line from the Daredevil movie where Bullseye says: 'You're good, baby, I'll give you that... but me? I'm magic.' It would be the same here .....the SEALs would think the COMICBOOK Batman was a freakin' bloody phantom or something).

Now, make it movie Batman and 30 SEALs will take down Wayne.
10 could probably do it.
Thus, with a 'realistic' Batman (eg any of the movie Batmen), the SEALs would probably win 9.5/10 due to saturation of numbers. However against the comicbook version they honestly have no chance against characters that track bullet motion.

However set real world forces against comicbook characters and you have a situation where in one case people are following real world physics, and in the other the person is jumping off skyscrapers and giving Batkicks to Darkseid.

I agree with spetz. ✅

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im honestly not being a smart aleck or anything but actually all you need to see is a thermal signature with next generation thermal imaging scopes. Optics technology has come a long way in the last 20 years or so. Im a gun nut and work for the govt(ret.) Ive got to play with all kinds of cool toys 😄

Most of what I have actually got to handle is small arms(mp5's, 16's, 37mm launchers, sidearms,ect with accompanying optics and a bunch of non lethal weapons. Various sprays, gas launchers, pepperball guns, flashbangs, vision impairment lasers all sorts of rubber and foam batons ect. Ive been on the recieveing end of the non lethals as well, most of them anyway. I have seen specs and training films on many of the in testing weapons like smart ammo ect. Honestly Im not sure Ive heard of the gun your speaking of. In ww2 thier was an add on barrel for the thompson that actually had a 90% bend that shot around corners. It only had a life of about 200 rounds though.

Hmm, IRT the guy who said Batman has a full body armor. Yeah, but does the armor absorb the impact? I mean, if you're getting shot while wearing a bullet proof west, you're still going to get the crap punched out of you. The hit could make you go unconcious even if it hit stomach or something.

I'm sure Batman has all super fancy modern duper alien technology armors which absorb all the impact and then turn the bullet go back to where it came from, but not before sitting down and rolling like all the good puppies... Krhm, Batman could propably take more shots to the west because of his "near" superhuman stats..

Unbelievable.This thread is still going? Must be a hard decision whether or not a peak-human who wears a bat costume can take out 30 highly trained Navy Seals 😄 😆

Originally posted by spetznaz
I for one think that Batman could defeat 30 SEALs, as long as it is the comicbook Batman and not any 'realistic' depiction of the character (for example any of the movie Batmen are more 'realistic' depictions ....well, as realistic as realism is on celluloid).
Anyways, here is why a comicbook Batman would win.

A United States Navy SEAL is arguably one of the best trained special forces operatives in the world. While there are some services that may claim to be better (each service always claims to be the best), it can be easily asserted that there is no one BETTER than a SEAL (now, equal is another matter, and there are contenders to the throne ....for example the amazing British SAS and SBS, the Israeli Sayaret groups, and even the American Army Special Forces AKA Green Berets, and the Delta force. And there are other groups that either have a similar purpose even though they may not be at the same level or have the same exact combat orientation, for example the Russian Spetsnaz, Indian RAW, French GIGN etc).
Anyways, the SEALs are amazing elite soldiers.

However they are facing a comicbook character, and that is their downfall!
No matter how good they are in the real world they ARE in/from the REAL WORLD, and are facing a character that is not only a FICTIONAL character but a fictional character from COMICBOOKS.
In comics things are a little 'different.'
For instance the comic Batman can dodge a fullisade of bullets simply by feeling the over-pressure of air as the bullet rushes towards him.
He can throw his batarangs and snap flying arrows into two along their grain.
He has sufficient stealth to creep up on characters like Daredevil and White Martians.
He has faced off against Aliens (who BTW in Batman vs Aliens 2 had destroyed an entire squadron of special forces soldiers themselves).

Anyways, there are a myriad points I could use (the above are actually nothing), but it would be best to just point people to the Batman Respect thread.

In a nutshell .....the SEALs are amazing military combatants, but if they are facing the COMICBOOK Batman with all his various 'peak human' (ahem) abilities, then they will fail.

Anyways, here is the Batman Respect Thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f50/t363873.html

In real life people do not disarm a bunch of people who have their guns drawn around you in a circle, and do it so fast that not only do they not see it but they do not even fire a shot:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/p4bae7579ff199808e2b06a218f2b84fc/fc24c27c.jpg

In the real world people do not take out helicopters with a knife they borrowed from a child:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/968/batcopter2.jpg

In the real world people do not throw a batarang BEHIND them without looking, knowing it will bounce off several surfaces and hit the target perfectly .....again, without even looking:
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4968/batmark74sg.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2384/batmark89ww.jpg

In the real world people do not exhibit the following levels of strength:
http://www.geocities.com/revelator15/batduct.jpg

Anyways, the Batman respect thread (actually there is a better respect thread, but it is from a source outside the KMC and I do not know the politics of linking to external sources) has sufficient examples of Batman's abilities.

The SEALs are the peak of REAL WORLD human combatants, facing a character who is not only pure fiction but COMICBOOK fiction.
They do NOT have a chance in hell of winning.
Not a chance .....I give Batman 10/10 (WITH THE CAVEAT BEING THAT THIS IS THE COMICBOOK BATMAN .....or for that matter comicbook Daredevil, comicbook Spiderman, comicbook Elektra etc etc etc etc etc .....against real world forces, all of them would be like bloody witchdoctors. Actually it reminds me of that line from the Daredevil movie where Bullseye says: 'You're good, baby, I'll give you that... but me? I'm magic.' It would be the same here .....the SEALs would think the COMICBOOK Batman was a freakin' bloody phantom or something).

Now, make it movie Batman and 30 SEALs will take down Wayne.
10 could probably do it.
Thus, with a 'realistic' Batman (eg any of the movie Batmen), the SEALs would probably win 9.5/10 due to saturation of numbers. However against the comicbook version they honestly have no chance against characters that track bullet motion.

However set real world forces against comicbook characters and you have a situation where in one case people are following real world physics, and in the other the person is jumping off skyscrapers and giving Batkicks to Darkseid.

This right here I agree with. ✅

😐