Methuselah... 969 years old or not?

Any thoughts? I would suspect that the people during his time followed a different time system.

If the bible's true then the dude lived 969 years. If it isn't then he never existed. So something genetic happened after the flood to make people live shorter lives, or the bible's false. (or some lazy copyist made a mountain of typos)

"And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years : and he died."
Genesis 5:27

* yes, this is true... but how? first, consider what they eat then, and what we eat now... see the big difference? next, the nature itself is not as polluted as it is now... their daily habits, their diet... people then really can live that long, bro... 😉

lol what was their calender year as well🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
lol what was their calender year as well🙂

I"m guessing one revolution around the sun. So unless the earth was a lot closer to the sun, or moving a lot faster, 969 years is still a long time.

alot of times way back in the day they went by harvest and crops I believe or supposedly anyway.....................the bible is a pretty good fairy tale so I couldn't tell you where and how they got those ages🙂

Originally posted by peejayd
"And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years : and he died."
Genesis 5:27

* yes, this is true... but how? first, consider what they eat then, and what we eat now... see the big difference? next, the nature itself is not as polluted as it is now... their daily habits, their diet... people then really can live that long, bro... 😉

You really think that?

* bro, they know the day, time, year... people in those times are not stupid... in fact, the calendar we use today were derived from them, the Greeks, Hebrews, Romans, Egyptians... in fact, they are more accurate in dates than us... don't you agree?

He must have been part elvish... you know those guys with the pointed ears 😛

Originally posted by peejayd
* bro, they know the day, time, year... people in those times are not stupid... in fact, the calendar we use today were derived from them, the Greeks, Hebrews, Romans, Egyptians... in fact, they are more accurate in dates than us... don't you agree?

Tacticus came from a pretty damn smart society and he was notorious for embellishing and overexaggeration. I wouldn't appeal to the intelligence of ancient peoples when it comes to the validity of the claims in the book. The Bible also mentions giants over ten to fifteen feet tall, and last I checked we don't have any of those now or have we in the past.

And really, why doesn't anyone cross reference the Bible with another work of the same time period? Any reasonable historian won't just pick up a copy of Julius Caesar's works and use that to paint a picture of the entire era; they'd use every available source, and work to isolate and eliminate inconsistancies and clear misinformation. People write books. People are fallible. I don't get how the Bible is suddenly infallible. Is Christianity faith in Christ, or faith in the Bible?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Tacticus came from a pretty damn smart society and he was notorious for embellishing and overexaggeration. I wouldn't appeal to the intelligence of ancient peoples when it comes to the validity of the claims in the book. The Bible also mentions giants over ten to fifteen feet tall, and last I checked we don't have any of those now or have we in the past.

And really, why doesn't anyone cross reference the Bible with another work of the same time period? Any reasonable historian won't just pick up a copy of Julius Caesar's works and use that to paint a picture of the entire era; they'd use every available source, and work to isolate and eliminate inconsistancies and clear misinformation. People write books. People are fallible. I don't get how the Bible is suddenly infallible. Is Christianity faith in Christ, or faith in the Bible?

On top of that, human's lie, misremember, etc... I don't place my faith in the bible, but in christ.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Tacticus came from a pretty damn smart society and he was notorious for embellishing and overexaggeration. I wouldn't appeal to the intelligence of ancient peoples when it comes to the validity of the claims in the book. The Bible also mentions giants over ten to fifteen feet tall, and last I checked we don't have any of those now or have we in the past.

And really, why doesn't anyone cross reference the Bible with another work of the same time period? Any reasonable historian won't just pick up a copy of Julius Caesar's works and use that to paint a picture of the entire era; they'd use every available source, and work to isolate and eliminate inconsistancies and clear misinformation. People write books. People are fallible. I don't get how the Bible is suddenly infallible. Is Christianity faith in Christ, or faith in the Bible?

* ah... bro... speaking of historians, Jesus Christ was written in the Roman history... 😉

* we should believe in the Bible more than any book because the Bible was written by spiritually-inspired men...

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost ."
II Peter 1:21

* and if you believe in Christ, you should believe in the Bible because Christ's words, laws and His life was written in it... 😉

Originally posted by NineCoronas
Exactly. The Bible has been rewritten a number of times by various people that by the Bible's own telling shouldn't have been re-written.

On top of that, human's lie, misremember, etc... I don't place my faith in the bible, but in christ.

* the Bible may be rewritten and translated to several different languages and dialects but with the power of our technology nowadays, we can discern and trace up to the original manuscript what really is the spirit of the Bible...

* believing in Christ is tantamount of saying, you also believe in the Bible because the true Christ is what the Bible says... 😉

* ah... bro... speaking of historians, Jesus Christ was written in the Roman history...

Originally posted by debbiejo
What Roman history? Josephus a historian from that time period never even mentioned him, and if Jesus was BIG NEWS, you would of thought he would of given him at least ONE paragraph if not pages...

* do you believe in Christ or not? 😕

Originally posted by peejayd
* do you believe in Christ or not? 😕

Originally posted by debbiejo
I believe there could of been a man named Jesus, but not how the bible portrays him. No, he is not god no more than we are god.....Or maybe we all are god just as he was.........Jesus was no different then we are......He did have some great teachings though.

* you believe in Jesus... from where? His teachings are clearly stated in the Bible yet you don't believe in it? how come? 🙁

Originally posted by peejayd
* you believe in Jesus... from where? His teachings are clearly stated in the Bible yet you don't believe in it? how come? 🙁

I like Hans Christian Anderson tales also but they are just fables told by men, as is the bible.

Originally posted by peejayd
* you believe in Jesus... from where? His teachings are clearly stated in the Bible yet you don't believe in it? how come? 🙁

Because the Bible ios most probably a work of fiction. I like to read Batman Comics, that doesn't mean I believe that Batman exists, and that everything stated in teh Comics is true.

Originally posted by Soleran
I like Hans Christian Anderson tales also but they are just fables told by men, as is the bible.

Anderson....that's such a much nicer arguement than mine....mine seems to be very rude, doesn't it?

Lol such is your style Bardock42..

He was actually 96.9 years old.

It was just a typing error.