What reaaaallly makes your blood boil in comics?

Started by TheKahn6 pages

boy scouts

I'm not saying I think Superman should start hanging out with Lobo but just think about all the terrible stuff superheroes would be exposed to: rape, murder, child abuse, ect. That kind of stuff should have much more of an affect on superheroes than what is depicted. Imagine seeing someone you know is guilty of a horrible crime get away with it on some kind of technicality. How could you stand by and do nothing about it?

1. Multiple books for one character...This has kept me from reading a few books over the years. Batman specifically. No character needs more than two monthly titles. If a character is so popular his fans are crying for more, or you just wanna give a guy some more exposure, do an oversized quarterly book.

2. Magic. Only the supernatural (angles, vampires, demons) should have any magical abilities.

3. PIS...nuff said.

4. Upgrades and new abilities...only mutants should have powers that constantly change. And nobody should recieve a power boost simply because the story calls for it.

5. Superspeed...Nobody gets both superstrength and superspeed. It makes sense that someone insanely strong (Hulk, Juggernaut, Dommsday, etc) should be able to leap miles and run about 300 miles per hour. That's it, no more. And if your superfast, that should be your only power.

Originally posted by Soleran
You guys are h8's 😛

You want h8 look at the responses to miders post's.

Originally posted by TheKahn
boy scouts

I'm not saying I think Superman should start hanging out with Lobo but just think about all the terrible stuff superheroes would be exposed to: rape, murder, child abuse, ect. That kind of stuff should have much more of an affect on superheroes than what is depicted. Imagine seeing someone you know is guilty of a horrible crime get away with it on some kind of technicality. How could you stand by and do nothing about it?

Isn't Captain America like that too? I can't stand a goodie goodie superhero. I need a badass in my life like Wolverine.

Comics that are nothing like the front cover............
comics that are 20 odd pages of the hero chatting to Innocent civilians with cheesy dialogue and then 1/2 a page of action in the comic 😠

Originally posted by TheKahn
boy scouts

I'm not saying I think Superman should start hanging out with Lobo but just think about all the terrible stuff superheroes would be exposed to: rape, murder, child abuse, ect. That kind of stuff should have much more of an affect on superheroes than what is depicted. Imagine seeing someone you know is guilty of a horrible crime get away with it on some kind of technicality. How could you stand by and do nothing about it?

Maybe Superhero's like Daredevil, Punisher, even Spider-Man...but Superman? I doubt he is getting exposed on those much. Captain America either. I think they are boyscouts because they don't see those things much. 😉

Originally posted by willRules
Comics that are nothing like the front cover............
comics that are 20 odd pages of the hero chatting to Innocent civilians with cheesy dialogue and then 1/2 a page of action in the comic 😠

Oh yeah...like a cover with Hawkman and Black Adam fighting...then their fight being like one page long...

I don't like the fact that it seems like DC up until IC was hell-bent on all their top characters to be uber beyond belief. I'm not crapping on normal DC fans, but it's the fanboys that piss me off.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Maybe Superhero's like Daredevil, Punisher, even Spider-Man...but Superman? I doubt he is getting exposed on those much. Captain America either. I think they are boyscouts because they don't see those things much. 😉

Captain America I'd agree with but Superman I'm not too sure about. When you take into consideration the fact that he lives in a major US city with millions of people and he as that pesky super-hearing and X-ray vision, then I don't think it is unreasonable to think he would be exposed to more human level crimes. Now Metropolis could just be that squeaky clean that such mundane crimes do not occur or Superman could just ignore then, either one doesn't seem likely to me.

Amnesia. I can't stand this plot device. It Has been done to death

Even Full House used it for its series finally. 😠

It is cheap and stupid.

No comic book character should ever suffer from memory loss ever again!

Writers should learn to make their characters deal with all the crap they go through. 😠

Doomsday. Walking plot device. Gog too. I stopped reading Superman when they brought in a clone of a villain from The Kingdom.

I hate unexpected de-powerization or power-ups to characters for no apparent reason. It makes the character not that interesting to read. When you get accustomed to seeing a character on a certain level, you expect him to stay on that level. Then, all of a sudden, the writer drastically changes what the character can do for no other reason then because the writer has the power to do it. An example for the power-ups in characters would be the X-Men recently. And the characters that don't perform on the level that they're capable of is just stupid. It implies PIS or as I like to call it: PIR (Plot Induced Retardation).

Originally posted by batdude123
I hate unexpected de-powerization or power-ups to characters for no apparent reason. It makes the character not that interesting to read. When you get accustomed to seeing a character on a certain level, you expect him to stay on that level. Then, all of a sudden, the writer drastically changes what the character can do for no other reason then because the writer has the power to do it. An example for the power-ups in characters would be the X-Men recently. And the characters that don't perform on the level that they're capable of is just stupid. It implies PIS or as I like to call it: PIR (Plot Induced Retardation).

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Originally posted by TheKahn
Captain America I'd agree with but Superman I'm not too sure about. When you take into consideration the fact that he lives in a major US city with millions of people and he as that pesky super-hearing and X-ray vision, then I don't think it is unreasonable to think he would be exposed to more human level crimes. Now Metropolis could just be that squeaky clean that such mundane crimes do not occur or Superman could just ignore then, either one doesn't seem likely to me.

I've read a LOT OF Superman stories...and trust me...the guy isn't always a squeaky clean boyscout.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I've read a LOT OF Superman stories...and trust me...the guy isn't always a squeaky clean boyscout.

Oh, I know. I was complaining about the boy scout persona more than any individual character.

Originally posted by batdude123
I hate unexpected de-powerization or power-ups to characters for no apparent reason. It makes the character not that interesting to read. When you get accustomed to seeing a character on a certain level, you expect him to stay on that level. Then, all of a sudden, the writer drastically changes what the character can do for no other reason then because the writer has the power to do it. An example for the power-ups in characters would be the X-Men recently. And the characters that don't perform on the level that they're capable of is just stupid. It implies PIS or as I like to call it: PIR (Plot Induced Retardation).

I agree wholeheartedly. Pointless powerups==they ran outof good ideas.

Originally posted by batdude123
I hate unexpected de-powerization or power-ups to characters for no apparent reason. It makes the character not that interesting to read. When you get accustomed to seeing a character on a certain level, you expect him to stay on that level. Then, all of a sudden, the writer drastically changes what the character can do for no other reason then because the writer has the power to do it. An example for the power-ups in characters would be the X-Men recently. And the characters that don't perform on the level that they're capable of is just stupid. It implies PIS or as I like to call it: PIR (Plot Induced Retardation).

From what I'm guessing, you're primarily a DC fan. Hearing that from you shows good character. Awesome.

comparing skyscrapers and aircraft carriers is like comparing apples to oranges. you're neglecting the fact that, essentially, all watercraft must be bouyant enough to float. or, at the very least, able to float with very little assistance from turbines, propellers, etc. a skyscraper would sink like a stone if placed in the water, simply because it's not designed to float. so, while you're comparing sizes, it doesn't really make much sense to hold their relative weights as decent, comparable measurements.

also, it looked, to me, like namor was resisting the torque of the propeller until it snapped off. he may also have been holding the ship in place, which really only means he stopped its forward momentum after cutting off its power supply. that in itself is quite impressive, but really has little to do with the weight of the ship.

Originally posted by Crease
5. Superspeed...Nobody gets both superstrength and superspeed. It makes sense that someone insanely strong (Hulk, Juggernaut, Dommsday, etc) should be able to leap miles and run about 300 miles per hour. That's it, no more. And if your superfast, that should be your only power.

that's actually not true. most superstrong characters can move at somewhat accelerated speeds due to their overall adaption, but very few are designed to move at "superspeeds," especially not at 300 miles per hour. i went into the actual biological reasons why in another thread, but it basically comes down to two different types of muscle tissue. fast-twitch, which is used for quick, repetitive motions, and slow-twitch, which is used for overall strength. running, which is a combination of coordination and strengthened fast-twitch fibers, is not very well linked to lifting. it's true that both fibers will be strengthened to different degrees during different exercises [in that slow-twitch fibers are strengthened a very small degree during running and other fast-twitch exercises, and fast-twitch fibers are strengthened marginally while the slow-twitch fibers are working,] but that does not mean superstrong should equate to superspeed. their muscularity would have to be at least one and a half again times as large to accomodate the appropriate fast-twitch fibers.