What reaaaallly makes your blood boil in comics?

Started by DarkCrawler6 pages
Originally posted by TheKahn
Captain America I'd agree with but Superman I'm not too sure about. When you take into consideration the fact that he lives in a major US city with millions of people and he as that pesky super-hearing and X-ray vision, then I don't think it is unreasonable to think he would be exposed to more human level crimes. Now Metropolis could just be that squeaky clean that such mundane crimes do not occur or Superman could just ignore then, either one doesn't seem likely to me.

Would you do crimes in city where a man who can move with lightspeeds and moves skyscrapers like nothing hears your every move? Especially if you don't have superpowers? 😉

That true death is nearly impossible, and can always be retconned later.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Would you do crimes in city where a man who can move with lightspeeds and moves skyscrapers like nothing hears your every move? Especially if you don't have superpowers? 😉

Yeah, I would just make sure I steered clear of Lois 😖hifty:

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yeah, I would just make sure I steered clear of Lois 😖hifty:

Depends who's drawing her........... 😈

Oh, and another one: time travel

Silly costumes and silly monikers.

That no matter how many times Galactus visits Earth, New York gets wrecked in an Avengers brawl, mystical and interstellar invasions etc. etc. - that people continue to be SO HUNG UP about "the mutant threat", and how being born with powers is somehow the worse thing to happen to humanity. There are bigger things for people of Earth to worry about; how much longer can this be milked? Cripes.

That the X-Men's storyline takes continuity over the rest of the MU because it's the X-Men.

Originally posted by Disappear
comparing skyscrapers and aircraft carriers is like comparing apples to oranges. you're neglecting the fact that, essentially, all watercraft must be bouyant enough to float. or, at the very least, able to float with very little assistance from turbines, propellers, etc. a skyscraper would sink like a stone if placed in the water, simply because it's not designed to float. so, while you're comparing sizes, it doesn't really make much sense to hold their relative weights as decent, comparable measurements.

also, it looked, to me, like namor was resisting the torque of the propeller until it snapped off. he may also have been holding the ship in place, which really only means he stopped its forward momentum after cutting off its power supply. that in itself is quite impressive, but really has little to do with the weight of the ship.

that's actually not true. most superstrong characters can move at somewhat accelerated speeds due to their overall adaption, but very few are designed to move at "superspeeds," especially not at 300 miles per hour. i went into the actual biological reasons why in another thread, but it basically comes down to two different types of muscle tissue. fast-twitch, which is used for quick, repetitive motions, and slow-twitch, which is used for overall strength. running, which is a combination of coordination and strengthened fast-twitch fibers, is not very well linked to lifting. it's true that both fibers will be strengthened to different degrees during different exercises [in that slow-twitch fibers are strengthened a very small degree during running and other fast-twitch exercises, and fast-twitch fibers are strengthened marginally while the slow-twitch fibers are working,] but that does not mean superstrong should equate to superspeed. their muscularity would have to be at least one and a half again times as large to accomodate the appropriate fast-twitch fibers.

There was a character in Sovereign Seven named Reflex. He was built like the Hulk, but he wasn't all that super strong, he could maybe lift a car. However, he was fast enough to beat Impulse (at his '96 or so power level) in a game of tag. How? Reflex's vast bulk was all fast-twitch muscle. I miss S7

Cool... the boat science thing souns scarily complicated...

I hate Wolverine's fanboy powers- he's far weaker than many chractares but half the time he beats bad guys beyond that of FAR stronger people...

Originally posted by roughrider
That no matter how many times Galactus visits Earth, New York gets wrecked in an Avengers brawl, mystical and interstellar invasions etc. etc. - that people continue to be SO HUNG UP about "the mutant threat", and how being born with powers is somehow the worse thing to happen to humanity. There are bigger things for people of Earth to worry about; how much longer can this be milked? Cripes.

I have to agree , also the Mutants are supposed to be a minority , yet they occupy 65 percent of the planet from what i understand ?

What is the mutant gene like AIDS or something ?

When a Marvel lady character comes out the bath and put's a towel, meaning no nudity.

Originally posted by Disappear
comparing skyscrapers and aircraft carriers is like comparing apples to oranges. you're neglecting the fact that, essentially, all watercraft must be bouyant enough to float. or, at the very least, able to float with very little assistance from turbines, propellers, etc. a skyscraper would sink like a stone if placed in the water, simply because it's not designed to float. so, while you're comparing sizes, it doesn't really make much sense to hold their relative weights as decent, comparable measurements.

also, it looked, to me, like namor was resisting the torque of the propeller until it snapped off. he may also have been holding the ship in place, which really only means he stopped its forward momentum after cutting off its power supply. that in itself is quite impressive, but really has little to do with the weight of the ship.

that's actually not true. most superstrong characters can move at somewhat accelerated speeds due to their overall adaption, but very few are designed to move at "superspeeds," especially not at 300 miles per hour. i went into the actual biological reasons why in another thread, but it basically comes down to two different types of muscle tissue. fast-twitch, which is used for quick, repetitive motions, and slow-twitch, which is used for overall strength. running, which is a combination of coordination and strengthened fast-twitch fibers, is not very well linked to lifting. it's true that both fibers will be strengthened to different degrees during different exercises [in that slow-twitch fibers are strengthened a very small degree during running and other fast-twitch exercises, and fast-twitch fibers are strengthened marginally while the slow-twitch fibers are working,] but that does not mean superstrong should equate to superspeed. their muscularity would have to be at least one and a half again times as large to accomodate the appropriate fast-twitch fibers.

You go girl!!!! 😱

Originally posted by Disappear
1. Comparing skyscrapers and aircraft carriers is like comparing apples to oranges. you're neglecting the fact that, essentially, all watercraft must be bouyant enough to float. or, at the very least, able to float with very little assistance from turbines, propellers, etc. a skyscraper would sink like a stone if placed in the water, simply because it's not designed to float. so, while you're comparing sizes, it doesn't really make much sense to hold their relative weights as decent, comparable measurements.
2. Also, it looked, to me, like namor was resisting the torque of the propeller until it snapped off. he may also have been holding the ship in place, which really only means he stopped its forward momentum after cutting off its power supply. that in itself is quite impressive, but really has little to do with the weight of the ship.

1. Generally speaking you're right, in terms of mass relating to buoyancy. But I believe one can still compare sheer tonnage as it relates to gravity on dry land.
2. Also good point. Namor was not lifting the vessel (otherwise he'd be even stronger than already considered), but he did have to deal with its momentum, as you said, still impressive, especially since he didn't have anything solid to push against to help him.

...most superstrong characters can move at somewhat accelerated speeds due to their overall adaption, but very few are designed to move at "superspeeds," especially not at 300 miles per hour. i went into the actual biological reasons why in another thread, but it basically comes down to two different types of muscle tissue. fast-twitch, which is used for quick, repetitive motions, and slow-twitch, which is used for overall strength. running, which is a combination of coordination and strengthened fast-twitch fibers, is not very well linked to lifting. it's true that both fibers will be strengthened to different degrees during different exercises [in that slow-twitch fibers are strengthened a very small degree during running and other fast-twitch exercises, and fast-twitch fibers are strengthened marginally while the slow-twitch fibers are working,] but that does not mean superstrong should equate to superspeed. their muscularity would have to be at least one and a half again times as large to accomodate the appropriate fast-twitch fibers.

What complicates this excellent observation is that many characters have other factors allowing them to move superfast. Flash, for example, has the speedforce; Wonder Woman has magic. Otherwise, there would be more than just fast-twitch vs slow-twitch fibers to worry about, especially as one nears lightspeed and relativistic effects begin to weigh in.

Originally posted by Blood_Rayne
Isn't Captain America like that too? I can't stand a goodie goodie superhero. I need a badass in my life like Wolverine.

What Cap isnt badass? 🤨

Seriously, a guy who beats the crap out of guys with a sheild is a hell of a lot more badass then a hairy midget with claws.

urg, i'll never understand women

I like Captain America, personally. The guy is beyond amazing when it comes to combat. He is the textbook definition of boyscout though. Not that I mind.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You go girl!!!! 😱

Disappear is a girl? 😕

No wait...he isn't. But hell you had me there.

Can't even count all the times I have been confused with someone's gender...

Originally posted by Grimm22
...urg, i'll never understand women

It's a power thing. 😉

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Disappear is a girl? 😕

No wait...he isn't. But hell you had me there.

Can't even count all the times I have been confused with someone's gender...

My chromosomes are firmly Y .

Originally posted by Dayscribe
I like Captain America, personally. The guy is beyond amazing when it comes to combat. He is the textbook definition of boyscout though. Not that I mind.

Damn straight , take CW #1 for instance , how bad-ass were his skills then .

Originally posted by Mindship
What complicates this excellent observation is that many characters have other factors allowing them to move superfast. Flash, for example, has the speedforce; Wonder Woman has magic. Otherwise, there would be more than just fast-twitch vs slow-twitch fibers to worry about, especially as one nears lightspeed and relativistic effects begin to weigh in.

i was referring primarily to marvel. all that dc-physics shit is beyond my level of expertise. i just don't care for it.

and thanks to GS. you know you did something right when the most intellectually argumentative member of the board's on your side.

and i am definitively male. it was probably just an expression, probably.