What reaaaallly makes your blood boil in comics?

Started by Mississippienne6 pages

What makes my blood boil...

"Magical" pregnancies. The Scarlet Witch, Ms. Marvel, and Power Girl have all had them. Can't a girl just get knocked up the good old-fashioned way?

As a sidenote, the term 'love triangle' has always sounded a little inaccurate to me. A triangle implies that all three parties are interested in one another (ex. Bob likes Karen who likes Sam who likes Bob). The classic 'love triangle' (like Scott and Logan both loving Jean) is more of a 'love V', really, with the two legs connected to the same point.

I hate the fact that some characters are strong enough to move planets. Planets don't even weigh anything so how do they do it? And how actually do they do it? On the crust? What does Superman do a handstand on the ground and try to push?

I also hate when people are like: "Superman can punch through time." Seriously, what does that even mean?

Originally posted by Jabba the Hutt
I hate the fact that some characters are strong enough to move planets. Planets don't even weigh anything so how do they do it?

...yes, they do weigh something. Quite a lot actually...

Jens Gundlach and Stephen Merkowitz from the University of Washington have found that the Earth
weighs in at 5.972 sextillion (5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000) metric tons.

I hate overpowerful characters. At times Thor, Hulk etc seem bit too powerful. Not to mention most of their enemies.

Exactly why I like some of the elder X-men comics. Sure, they have had their share of the superduperhypercyber(?) powerful enemies too, but not that often. Or, at least I've missed some of those comics.

Another thing is stupid upgrades.

I mean, First. Superman was faster than a speeding bullet etc etc level. Now, he's capable of moving moons and moving on the speed of light and beyond it.

I also hate when some lesser beings able to defeat greater beings WITHOUT a proper reason why they were able to win.

My.. err. Few cents

Originally posted by Jabba the Hutt
I hate the fact that some characters are strong enough to move planets...how actually do they do it? On the crust? What does Superman do a handstand on the ground and try to push?

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The first time I saw (pre-crisis) Superman push a planet, that's exactly what he was doing (except he was in regular, horizontal flying position, and the planet's horizon was vertical).

I also hate when people are like: "Superman can punch through time." Seriously, what does that even mean?

It means desperate one-upmanship...and I like Superman!

I like the powerhouse battles actually...The Hulk vs. Thing and sooo...And I just can't wait for a Juggernaut vs. Colossus comic a mini like vs. Venom was...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
...yes, they do weigh something. Quite a lot actually...

I'm pretty sure it doesn't really weigh anything. It has lots of mass though which is a little different than weight.

Originally posted by Jabba the Hutt
I'm pretty sure it doesn't really weigh anything. It has lots of mass though which is a little different than weight.

Hmm. Sounds like splitting hairs.
"Weight" is what you get when mass is measured in terms of a gravitational field pulling down on it. In that sense, perhaps, a planet "doesn't really weigh anything," in that there is no platform/scale upon which to rest it. However, as you've pointed out, it does have mass, and scientists can therefore estimate a planet's weight by 1) determining what material(s) the planet is made of; 2) knowing how much said material(s) weigh per given unit of volume; and 3) multiplying that figure by the planet's total volume.

Example: Planet Jabba is made of iron-silicate. Iron-silicate weighs 1 ton per cubic meter. We know Planet Jabba's diameter, therefore we can determine its volume (1 zillion cubic meters). Thus, Planet Jabba "weighs" 1 zillion tons.

It's actually a quite simple affair with straighforward math.

I have many things actually.
One of which is the priority X-Men have been given in terms of the MU and continuity. I loved the X-Men when they were mostly low to powerful street levelers that had to deal with prejudice not saying that is what the central theme should always be but the power levels should never change really. Also Mutant powers that make no sense basically Scarlet Witch is the best example how can a mutation allow someone to manipulate reality.

Following this theme Power-ups without reason are quite maddening.

Magic used incorrectly. Basically when used right magic is very acceptable as a power set so long as it is a defined set when it starts to become a plot device it has over stepped its boundaries.

The idea of a Multi-verse more of Marvels though. The need was necessary with all the retcons and continuity problems. Still the fact it got so bad so that it had to happen is still bad. Anyway the idea of Marvel's Multiverse stinks basically a whole bunch of different universes just in one place sucks. Why because originally beings like Galactus and Eternity were one of kind characters but that is thrown out the window because every Universe has its own Galactus and its own Eternity. It takes away from the notion and thought of a character. While I still don't like Multi-verses DC did a better job of it. Making more structured in its making. DC's Multiverse being more like a ladder. with all the little universes in one spot then the higher deminsions on top. This allows for there being only one Darkseid and such which makes the character more profound.

This ties into the Multiverse but all these uber omnipotent cosmic charcters that spring up becuase they are mutliversal thraets.

Originally posted by newjak86
Magic used incorrectly. Basically when used right magic is very acceptable as a power set so long as it is a defined set when it starts to become a plot device it has over stepped its boundaries.

Exactly! If the rules of "magic" were clearly defined (as they often are in well-written fantasy novels, eg, LOTR), then it can become an interesting element in the story. But too often it strikes me as deus ex machina.

Originally posted by Mindship
Exactly! If the rules of "magic" were clearly defined (as they often are in well-written fantasy novels, eg, LOTR), then it can become an interesting element in the story. But too often it strikes me as deus ex machina.
It clearly is and most shown with Dr. Strange especially when he took on the the infinity gauntlet. Don't get me wrong magic as a whole should be a fundamental force but not the end all be all.
Like you said LOTR are mostly D&D where magic is very useful but is clearly defined in terms of what you can do and what you can't.

A. Secondary mutations - You already have a set of powers dammit you dont need anymore

B Stupid clone syndrome - Nate Grey , Goblin Queen , Ben riley .

C. Time Travel - Hey look it's our kid's from the future.....

D. Dumbass hypes - You can't master 137 GODDAMN martial arts !!!

Originally posted by grey fox
A. Secondary mutations - You already have a set of powers dammit you dont need anymore

B Stupid clone syndrome - Nate Grey , Goblin Queen , Ben riley .

C. Time Travel - Hey look it's our kid's from the future.....

D. Dumbass hypes - You can't [B]master 137 GODDAMN martial arts !!! [/B]

Thank you for remionding me that was something else.
Comic book notions of Martial Arts. It doesn't matter how many form you know its your ability to use the forms you do to the best of its ability. Hence why smarter people who know martial arts like DS should always trump people who know more styles like Wolverine.
Just because you know alot doesn't mean you are smart enough or effective enough to use them well.

That six issues of great story and plot end with Superman saving the day, AGAIN! I'm sorry, but can't somebody else have the spotlight?

Plot Induced siblings - Cassandra Nova and Vulcan . Need i say more.

Wonder Woman...
She can survive Superman's punches but can't take a bullet. C'mon. Spare me the "blunt impact vs sharp impact" and the "demoralizing opponents" reasons. IMO, they are weak. But since we can't have her stop deflecting bullets with her bracelets--because that is WW's signature move--then writers should have her deflect Supe's punches with her bracelets. Not only would this be more consistent, but it would also better highlight her superiority as a skilled fighter.

(Neo: "You're saying I'll be able to dodge bullets?"
Morpheus: "I'm saying, you won't have to."😉

The Silver Surfer...
Though today's Surfer is shiner, when Jack Kirby drew him, there was always a sense of alien, aloof, majestic power. The Surfer fretted over nothing, even when dislodged from his board. These days, it seems when he is knocked off, he drops like a girlie-man.
Like Wonder Woman, he's trapped by what he is; you can't get rid of the board. But c'mon: let him hover (Doom did it). At the least, let him keep his cool.
(And even if he flew back to his board, so what? With it, he flies faster and better.)

Originally posted by Mindship
Wonder Woman...
She can survive Superman's punches but can't take a bullet. C'mon. Spare me the "blunt impact vs sharp impact" and the "demoralizing opponents" reasons. IMO, they are weak. But since we can't have her stop deflecting bullets with her bracelets--because that is WW's signature move--then writers should have her deflect Supe's punches with her bracelets. Not only would this be more consistent, but it would also better highlight her superiority as a skilled fighter.

(Neo: "You're saying I'll be able to dodge bullets?"
Morpheus: "I'm saying, you won't have to."😉

The Silver Surfer...
Though today's Surfer is shiner, when Jack Kirby drew him, there was always a sense of alien, aloof, majestic power. The Surfer fretted over nothing, even when dislodged from his board. These days, it seems when he is knocked off, he drops like a girlie-man.
Like Wonder Woman, he's trapped by what he is; you can't get rid of the board. But c'mon: let him hover (Doom did it). At the least, let him keep his cool.
(And even if he flew back to his board, so what? With it, he flies faster and better.)

I'll sign to that. I've got my own little problem:

I don't like it when Magic isn't explained. Let me give an example. Dr. Strange's comics have explained every spell, given it a name, and so forth. However, other characters use spells in other comics and it gets called a plot device because it isn't explained. Then they say that Dr. Strange is a walking plot device. That's pretty bunk. Spectre is a walking plot device. Scarlet Witch is a walking plot device. Dr. Strange is a learned master of the mystic arts!

norrin, very recently, had his board destroyed. then he blew the shit out of cable, and most fans hold him accountable (though they're wrong) for cable's power loss.

Originally posted by grey fox
Plot Induced siblings - Cassandra Nova and Vulcan . Need i say more.

I'll one up you and say plot induced uber powerful siblings.

Originally posted by Rewmac
I like the powerhouse battles actually...The Hulk vs. Thing and sooo...And I just can't wait for a Juggernaut vs. Colossus comic a mini like vs. Venom was...

I would have read the Thing vs Hulk mini series if Jae Lee wasnt doing the art. 😘

Seriously, he sucks at drawing both Hulk and Thing.