Originally posted by leonidas
on the whole, coie certainly felt more epic. i mean, hard to compete with the endings of countless universes and a story that rewrites CREATION!! but there were plenty of disappointments in coie. IC i thought should have been longer, but i liked the character development and the lead up MUCH better than coie. the build up to IC was just spectacular imo. villains united, omac, identity crisis. these were GREAT stories, and built up a great sense of 'i can't wait for IC!!!'i view the 2 stories as very different -- coie revolved around a crisis in the dcu, while IC revolved around a crisis of CHARACTERS. of course looking at it that way, it's easy to understand why coie felt more epic, but i like the way most characters were handled in IC better than coie.
both had some great and not so great moments, both were at times hard to follow for their complexities and both seemed to have been a little too crammed with info. i think BOTH delivered many more positives though, than negatives and for me all i can really say is i liked the 'epic feel' of coie, but i liked the 'character crisis' of IC.
maybe a cop out, but that's how's i see it.
Imagine if either of those were adapted into a series of movies or a mini series.
Talk about a nightmare for the costume department
Originally posted by dman2008
and you care why? 🙄
Because people could just as easily call you a DC fanboy, which is becoming more evident by the moment. To be honest, if you don't like the fact that these forums are Marvel biased, which I'm still not sure of, then why don't you find a different forum? 😬
I just started reading COIE again...
http://www.monitorduty.com/mdarchives/CsyndicateDeath.jpg
Gotta admit...that's a pretty damn sweet way to kick off a series.
But ever since then it's been boring and weird so I lost interest lol.
Originally posted by Dayscribe
Because people could just as easily call you a DC fanboy, which is becoming more evident by the moment. To be honest, if you don't like the fact that these forums are Marvel biased, which I'm still not sure of, then why don't you find a different forum? 😬
because I don't want to ? 😕 😉
and there are still a few great posters here
and anyways why do you care If I stay here or not
Originally posted by dman2008
because I don't want to ? 😕 😉
and there are still a few great posters hereand anyways why do you care If I stay here or not
Aside from the fact that you're ignorant to comics outside of DC, and the fact that you have some sort of latent hostility toward Marvel fans, there's not much of a reason. Saying that NOTHING is topping Crisis on Infinite Earths is very ignorant. There's plenty of normal storylines out there that people prefer over COIE, but saying it's the best is just a fanboyism. It's apparent that you think so because it's a DC series. Prety lame. 😬 Truth be known, it's the best DC event, but in overall comicdom, nope.
Originally posted by Dayscribe
Aside from the fact that you're ignorant to comics outside of DC, and the fact that you have some sort of latent hostility toward Marvel fans, there's not much of a reason. Saying that NOTHING is topping Crisis on Infinite Earths is very ignorant. There's plenty of normal storylines out there that people prefer over COIE, but saying it's the best is just a fanboyism. It's apparent that you think so because it's a DC series. Prety lame. 😬 Truth be known, it's the best DC event, but in overall comicdom, nope.
...it's his opinion. Leave him to it. 😐
And yeah, KMC's Marvel-bias. That's no secret...it's been that way for a while. And certain people are more into one company than the other. Doesn't mean there isn't still intelligent discussion, nor does it mean you have to let it be a hang-up for you.
When it comes to IC & HOM i think that both series could have been better. I think the writer's qot ahead of themselves story suffered. The way they pan out it's like the writer turned both IC & HOM from a headliner event into a setup storyline. Not that this is initially horrible it is qood writinq to qive yourself a follow up, but the writinq qot lazy, no risk taken so maximum effect is not reached, i.e not havinq a all the fiqhts in metropolis that could have been or in HOM havinq too much of the story centered around wolverine & not other character's like caqe or hawkman who came back from the dead or panther countless other people even in xmen that would have been qreat. However unlike IC HOM had a much better endinq in the perspective books. Not talkin about aftermath but actual series endinq for HOM better. Have no idea how qood aftermath for IC can be crap or cool but if you compare "No more mutants" to "I'll be back" the former wow the latter about every supervillain ever has said & done that nothin remarkable.
The worst event in comics history...but better than anything DC has produced apparently.
I loved Infinite Crisis, but compared to what has happened in Civil war so far, it pales in comparison. Although that might be the Marvel Fanboy side of me saying that ✅
Plus Steve Mcniven's art for Civil War has been brilliant so far, as has the storyline, which is quite uncommon for Marvel crossovers. The last Marvel crossover I read that I enjoyed as much as this was either the original Secret Wars or JLA/Avengers ✅
True dat. CW's better....especially since Marvel's last event (HoM) sucked the big one.
Anyway, I voted for the Original Crisis. Was it confusing as hell? Sure. But they had so much BS to clean up in the DC multiverse that it had to be that complex to work.
But once you read it a second time, a lot comes into focus...it really was an insanely massive acheivement. IC, by comparison, is small potatoes...not to mention nothing more than an extended Superman/Superboy/Superboy-Prime/Super-insert-name story arc with a few guest appearences. "Crisis In The Super-Family" would have been a more appropriate name. 🙄
