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He's far from an elite reciever.

He's good and thats it.

Saying that the QB sucks doesnt make sense because he wasnt the leading reciever on the team. Curry has that distinction and he was thrown the ball from the same QB.

It does make sense, he doesn't try as hard when he knows he isn't going to be getting the ball thrown to him. Their line is awful and their QB was awful. He is still an elite receiver as I would take him over Harrison any day if he was paired with a good QB.

him over harrison? your crazy. Attitude counts. Him not trying and not caring takes him out of the elite category.

I'm saying when he tries he is one the best and yes I would take him over Harrison, but only when he cares enough to try.

yea but the problem is can you count on him to put forth 100% effort. Harrison is great because he tries so hard and doesnt have an attitude. Him and Manning have prolly put in more time working together than any orther duo in the league. Its called work ethic.

Now winning a ring apparantlly means a lot of Moss so maybe he will have a positive attitude in NE and be close to his old self.

Raiders had the best draft day, in my opinion.

if bush and moses pan out they sure did. Oh and that JaMarcus guy better be pretty good.

Moss better than Harrison. That's laughable.

Harrison is a better route runner, blocker, has better hands and feet (probalby the best in the league), has some of the best moves for an WR, and his double move is sometimes unstoppable and he is pretty damn fast too.

Moss only has the height and speed, but Harrison doesnt need height to get TD's. He has the best moves and route running.

Your idea that you would pick Moss if he wanted to play. Is this based on an one game basis or season?
For me, doesnt matter because I automatically choose Harrison.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Moss better than Harrison. That's laughable.

Harrison is a better route runner, blocker, has better hands and feet (probalby the best in the league), has some of the best moves for an WR, and his double move is sometimes unstoppable and he is pretty damn fast too.

Moss only has the height and speed, but Harrison doesnt need height to get TD's. He has the best moves and route running.

Your idea that you would pick Moss if he wanted to play. Is this based on an one game basis or season?
For me, doesnt matter because I automatically choose Harrison.

Moss over Harrsion laughable? Because Moss has had Peyton Manning throwing to him for the past few seasons.... 😆

When he was with the Vikings him and T.O. were the top two WR's, but as soon as he went to the Raiders he fell off. Not because he lost speed, but because that team is just horrible. No line and no QB, therefore he can't produce. Moss is a better receiver than Harrsion, there is no question. Give this man a QB and he's back on the top. He has one now and I think you will see that this upcoming season.

Dude, didn't I have this ****in argument about you with Moss, and Owens, that Moss didn't have a QB, and O-line, or any help, and yet you kept throwing Owens numbers at me to try and say he was better, and now your doing a 180 and saying what I said about Moss, and yet Harrisons numbers over his mean sh!t? WTF?

Yes

Oh, well, atleast your honest, carry on than......

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Moss over Harrsion laughable? Because Moss has had Peyton Manning throwing to him for the past few seasons.... 😆

When he was with the Vikings him and T.O. were the top two WR's, but as soon as he went to the Raiders he fell off. Not because he lost speed, but because that team is just horrible. No line and no QB, therefore he can't produce. Moss is a better receiver than Harrsion, there is no question. Give this man a QB and he's back on the top. He has one now and I think you will see that this upcoming season.

Why is he a better reciever?

I think he is more dangerous. He has the leaping ability, great hands and the route running is mutual and he has proven that. It is all a matter of opinion I guess but it is wrong to say it's laughable to compare the two.

Guess we will find out in about 4 months! Man I can't wait for football.

I can....it's called basketball and baseball.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
I can....it's called basketball and baseball.

Now that's a nice comeback.

I watched both draft days so needless to say, I didn't get out much this weekend. I don't really feel like going into too much, but I know how he's labeled a pretty boy and all, but I couldn't really picture BQ (who might be BBQ before too long) in any other uniform but a Clowns uni. He reminds me of Kelly Holcomb (I'm talking about the imagining part) during his 2002 campaign, which was the only one that was above .500 for that team in centuries.

I've gotta agree with Lord Evolution, Moss is the better receiver because he's faster, can leap higher, is taller, and I believe he has better hands. Someone said Harrison is a better blocker? How, he's barely 175lbs soaking wet. Even though Moss is taller (which means his center of gravity is higher, which makes it harder to block) he is much stronger (not to mention heavier) than Harrison, which neutralizes his height. Don't mistake Harrison's being a harder-working guy with him having more talent than Randy Moss, Randy has just been a lazy bastard, but with his willingness to re-work his contract I think that's a serious implication that he's about the business of winning, why would he re-work it and lose money if he wasn't serious? If that was the case he would've stayed in The Black Hole, and continued making the big dough.

Did anyone see the footage that showed that running jump from that safety from Wyoming? John Wendling was his name, and he went to the Bills. The dude cleared a 5' 6" bar - not high-jump style, but standing straight up!

The Black Hole? Wasnt it just two years ago when Moss said he will flourish in the black and silver because that's the person he is?

Harrison has better hands than Moss. That's no question whatsoever. How many times do you have see him making some crazy catch, put two toes down and get the TD? How many times do you need to see him doing that every season atleast 5 times to see that his hands are one of the best in the league. If not the best.

Ever see a game where James runs the stretch play for the Colts to the outside, you know that play that they always run...who's blocking out there....thats right its Harrison. Moss doesnt block whatsoever.

All your saying is that Moss is bigger.....yes I know that, but doesnt make him better. Harrison is the better WR, always has and always will be. Moss having better route running skills....again, maybe if you think he just runs an fly pattern. Harrison is better at that and he uses that ability to get TD's.

I hate the arguements that an player only gets better because of the QB. Moss had Culpepper, and outside of two season, he had a great QB. But, these past year, he wasnt even the leading reciever. Curry was.