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Originally posted by Lord Evolution
I doubt Romo will still be holding the ball. 😆

Dallas is definitely a contender. Smas might not admit it but in reality they are, especially in the NFC. If they can get past the Saints then I think they'll be in the Super Bowl.

I'm just saying its the Cowboys. hahahah. I never admit they're good, only that they suck. It cuts down on my yelling. I cant yell when they lose when I expect them to lose. hahah.

But in reality, the Cowboys season relies on two thinngs (or maybe more).

Romo, if he can continue what he did. He tailed off near the end of the season, and wasnt nearly as effective. Still a good QB, but we have to wait and see.

And the secondary, or more importantly, how Hamlin plays. If Hamlin plays the centrefield position in the defense and does it well, they'll be a good team. The pass rush is there with Ware, Ellis, Spencer, and the defensive line is equally as talented, (but lacking some depth), and the corners are good with Newman being amazing, and Henry, though good, can be burned a few times. Williams is Williams, which makes Hamlin that more important.

On the offensive side, basically the same team last year, aside from the obvious upgrade of Leonard Davis. Even though he is getting overpaid, he is better than Rivera.

All in all, the offense is the same, and the defense is the same but added some key component, but the Cowboys must have good play from Romo and Hamlin to have a chance at the Superbowl.

This is the Cowboys, and they always manage to **** something up.

Williams is always getting burned. And it's usually plays that he should make but ends up not. I would worry about him on the big plays but in everything else he is pretty solid.

He's my favourite player.

He's great against the run, messing shit up behind the line of scrimmage and causing havoc. He's one of the best at doing that. He's decent in coverage also and can make plays around the field.

What he aint good at is being the main defender in the secondary and being 15-20 feet out. Darren Woodson, which people consider as one of the best SS in the game could cover the slot recievers easily and could tackle, and when he played with Williams, he could play really well. They just need a guy who will take care of the deep coverages and make sure they dont get burned by the deep pass.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
I doubt Romo will still be holding the ball. 😆

Dallas is definitely a contender. Smas might not admit it but in reality they are, especially in the NFC. If they can get past the Saints then I think they'll be in the Super Bowl.

This is true but you are forgetting that Owens can't act up.

But he will.

He'll be fine.

Owens will be Owens and he does the same thing he did with Philly. (Remember its the dreaded second season with the team), it aint going to be problem for the Cowboys. They will still have a good team and a good offense.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Owens will be Owens and he does the same thing he did with Philly. (Remember its the dreaded second season with the team), it aint going to be problem for the Cowboys. They will still have a good team and a good offense.

That offense won't be worth anything if Owens doesn't get a lot of balls thrown his way. The Tight End will be taking a lot of catches away from Owens so expect him to explode at some point and Dallas's season will go down the drain.

You guys don't realize that Owens never really complains when the team is winning. Go back and look at past situations, it is usually when they are losing and he isn't getting the ball when he starts getting mad. Get him the ball and you'll win, as simple as that. Start doing dumb shit like going away from him when he is open then he'll go off on the sideline, but its mainly when the team is losing. He just wants to win.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
That offense won't be worth anything if Owens doesn't get a lot of balls thrown his way. The Tight End will be taking a lot of catches away from Owens so expect him to explode at some point and Dallas's season will go down the drain.

If I remember correctly he had the most number of balls thrown his way in 2006. Just a stat, because he did have a very productive year despite his critics pointing out his drops every 10 seconds of each broadcast.

The problem with Owens is that he has alot of talent, too much cockiness for a team, when those combine, oh no. He'll only be happy winning the Super Bowl, year in and year out, so he'll have to go to NE or Indy.

Originally posted by The_Mayor
The problem with Owens is that he has alot of talent, too much cockiness for a team, when those combine, oh no. He'll only be happy winning the Super Bowl, year in and year out, so he'll have to go to NE or Indy.

Indy would never happen, or the Patriots. They already have the guys they want.

Owens doesnt really mean much in the Cowboys. If he goes off and does this thing again this year, it wont matter because the team can play without him.

Whitten, Glenn, Jones, Barber, Crayton are all good players and can easily make the offense still good if Owens leaves. Owen obviously helps the team when he is there, but if he leaves, the team wont magically blow it self up.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Indy would never happen, or the Patriots. They already have the guys they want.

Owens doesnt really mean much in the Cowboys. If he goes off and does this thing again this year, it wont matter because the team can play without him.

Whitten, Glenn, Jones, Barber, Crayton are all good players and can easily make the offense still good if Owens leaves. Owen obviously helps the team when he is there, but if he leaves, the team wont magically blow it self up.

But they need someone like Owens, providing he stays happy, to get to the Superbowl.

lol if the Cowboys lost Owens I seriously doubt they would make the playoffs. Those guys you just mentioned, couldn't make the playoffs before Owens was there. Romo needs a #1 guy and the Cowboys just wouldn't have that if Owens left. You can make it like he isn't THAT important to the success of your team but in reality he is pivotal, and that is why Jones still has him there. They may not blow themselves up but fa sure they aren't going to make the playoffs.

Nah, I disagree with you completely.

They couldnt make the playoffs because of the QB situation. That's it. Owens is a good target, but he isnt essential to the Cowboys playoff hopes. Last year with Owens, they barely made the playoffs and it wasnt the offense, it was defense.

If that defense plays well. They could easily make the playoffs without Owens. Glenn is a really good WR, and Whitten and Barber could easily make up Owens TD's. They wouldnt be as effective, but still a good team.

They are a super bowl contender with him and WILL struggle to make the playoffs without him, that is just how important he is. That offense wont be nearly as effective without him. And you give credit to their defense last year? When Romo came in they started winning, why? Because their offense improved and weren't they one of the highest scoring teams in the league? Yeah good luck trying to repeat that feat without T.O. who lead the league in receiving TD's even with that finger he injured early on. Don't get me wrong, you guys have weapons on offense, but no one as effective as T.O. He draws defenders away from other guys so they can get an opportunity and still manages to put up numbers. Come to think about it, without T.O. you guys wont even have a valid #1 WR. Only TEAMS like the Patriots can win championships like that.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
They are a super bowl contender with him and WILL struggle to make the playoffs without him, that is just how important he is. That offense wont be nearly as effective without him. And you give credit to their defense last year? When Romo came in they started winning, why? Because their offense improved and weren't they one of the highest scoring teams in the league? Yeah good luck trying to repeat that feat without T.O. who lead the league in receiving TD's even with that finger he injured early on. Don't get me wrong, you guys have weapons on offense, but no one as effective as T.O. He draws defenders away from other guys so they can get an opportunity and still manages to put up numbers. Come to think about it, without T.O. you guys wont even have a valid #1 WR. Only TEAMS like the Patriots can win championships like that.

I agree with some of what you're saying.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
They are a super bowl contender with him and WILL struggle to make the playoffs without him, that is just how important he is. That offense wont be nearly as effective without him. And you give credit to their defense last year? When Romo came in they started winning, why? Because their offense improved and weren't they one of the highest scoring teams in the league? Yeah good luck trying to repeat that feat without T.O. who lead the league in receiving TD's even with that finger he injured early on. Don't get me wrong, you guys have weapons on offense, but no one as effective as T.O. He draws defenders away from other guys so they can get an opportunity and still manages to put up numbers. Come to think about it, without T.O. you guys wont even have a valid #1 WR. Only TEAMS like the Patriots can win championships like that.

They'll make the playoffs without him. The defense can play well and the offense is good. TO makes their team better, obviously, but they're not complete ****ed.

Nonbody ever remembers Terry Glenn, he is a viable number 1 guy. The last two years, he has over 1000 yards, 15 yard per catch (18 two years ago) and around 7 TD's. Those are good numbers. He can easily be the number 1.

You take way too much stock into TO. He's a great WR but the team can win without them.

As for an Superbowl, I dont think even with TO we can do it, without him no, we cant. But I didnt say anything about an championship. All I have said was that the team can easily make the playoffs without him. One player means shit in football. If the defense plays well, and they could with Wade Phillips as thier coach, they could easily make the playoffs.

Originally posted by Smasandian
They'll make the playoffs without him. The defense can play well and the offense is good. TO makes their team better, obviously, but they're not complete ****ed.

Nonbody ever remembers Terry Glenn, he is a viable number 1 guy. The last two years, he has over 1000 yards, 15 yard per catch (18 two years ago) and around 7 TD's. Those are good numbers. He can easily be the number 1.

You take way too much stock into TO. He's a great WR but the team can win without them.

As for an Superbowl, I dont think even with TO we can do it, without him no, we cant. But I didnt say anything about an championship. All I have said was that the team can easily make the playoffs without him. One player means shit in football. If the defense plays well, and they could with Wade Phillips as thier coach, they could easily make the playoffs.

Is that why they won/loss record isn't all that before Owens got there? It didn't really improve when he got there. Their defense isn't all that. The secondary stinks.

The fact remains that the Dallas Cowboys made the playoffs because of Romo and not Owens.

Secondary doesnt stink, its just average. Newman, in my opinion, is one of the best cover CB's in the league and is highly underrated. Henry is a good CB but it seems he is always injured or is ineffective based on injuries. Williams is Williams and the one guy who could turn that secondary from an average secondary to an great secondary is Hamlin. It all depends on him.