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Originally posted by Smasandian
The fact remains that the Dallas Cowboys made the playoffs because of Romo and not Owens.

Secondary doesnt stink, its just average. Newman, in my opinion, is one of the best cover CB's in the league and is highly underrated. Henry is a good CB but it seems he is always injured or is ineffective based on injuries. Williams is Williams and the one guy who could turn that secondary from an average secondary to an great secondary is Hamlin. It all depends on him.

I fthe secondary is all that like you say, then they would be amongst the best in picking off the ball. All Dallas's secondary can do is hit, thats it. Hamlin, that Seahawk bum!!! Their secondary must learn to have interceptions and not just hit. That was very much evident last year watching them especially when they played the Saints. Romo is not all that. Average at the least. Their ground attack must be a lot better. Owens must learn because according to Jason Garrett and Bum, Oh I mean Wade Phillips, Jason Whitten is going to be a major factor on offense.

So, being tied for 6th overall in the league in Takeaways doesnt mean much?

Or how about 5th in INT for the NFC?, or tied for 11th in INT in the entire league doesnt mean much either?

INT are a good stat to have, but its just a stat. It's not indictive to how well the defense plays. Look at Deion Sanders, who people consider as one of the best CB's to ever play the game. Guess how many INT's he had during his career, only 52, and thats in 14 years, which averages about 3.5 INT's a season. His two highest totals are 6,7 per season. Those are good numbers, but not great numbers for a player who is considered one of the best. Why? Because nonbody threw to him, he was that good. Same with Newman.

Originally posted by Smasandian
So, being tied for 6th overall in the league in Takeaways doesnt mean much?

Or how about 5th in INT for the NFC?, or tied for 11th in INT in the entire league doesnt mean much either?

INT are a good stat to have, but its just a stat. It's not indictive to how well the defense plays. Look at Deion Sanders, who people consider as one of the best CB's to ever play the game. Guess how many INT's he had during his career, only 52, and thats in 14 years, which averages about 3.5 INT's a season. His two highest totals are 6,7 per season. Those are good numbers, but not great numbers for a player who is considered one of the best. Why? Because nonbody threw to him, he was that good. Same with Newman.

Stats are just that, stats. Defense will wins titles, except the cowboys case, they need both. How is their ground game?

Originally posted by Smasandian
So, being tied for 6th overall in the league in Takeaways doesnt mean much?

Or how about 5th in INT for the NFC?, or tied for 11th in INT in the entire league doesnt mean much either?

INT are a good stat to have, but its just a stat. It's not indictive to how well the defense plays. Look at Deion Sanders, who people consider as one of the best CB's to ever play the game. Guess how many INT's he had during his career, only 52, and thats in 14 years, which averages about 3.5 INT's a season. His two highest totals are 6,7 per season. Those are good numbers, but not great numbers for a player who is considered one of the best. Why? Because nonbody threw to him, he was that good. Same with Newman.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Stats are just that, stats. Defense will wins titles, except the cowboys case, they need both. How is their ground game?

who in ur opinion is the greatest individual nfl team of all time. my vote is for the 89' forty niners. uber badasses!

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Stats are just that, stats. Defense will wins titles, except the cowboys case, they need both. How is their ground game?

You just told me that the secondary just hit players instead of getting takeaways. I just proved that they didnt. They did get the ball. You wanted stats, and you got them.

The ground game for defense was 10th best in the NFL. The offensive side was 13th overall.

What was bad for Dallas was the pass defense, ranked 24th overall. That's largely the problem of Williams and the lack of free saftey.

If they can fix the free safety position, that secondary should be a strength.

Originally posted by Smasandian
You just told me that the secondary just hit players instead of getting takeaways. I just proved that they didnt. They did get the ball. You wanted stats, and you got them.

The ground game for defense was 10th best in the NFL. The offensive side was 13th overall.

What was bad for Dallas was the pass defense, ranked 24th overall. That's largely the problem of Williams and the lack of free saftey.

If they can fix the free safety position, that secondary should be a strength.

😄 How can the Steelers get back to the superbowl?

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
😄 How can the Steelers get back to the superbowl?

I think almost all the components are in place. Notice how I said almost.

#1) There are major issues on the line. Can Essex or Kemoeatu step up? And where is the depth at guard if Mahan is going to play center? And if he doesn't play center, who is? It's not going to be Chukky, and I don't think Philip is ready. Simmons at center? Are you kidding me? Will Spaeth be kept in for two TE sets? Who will be blocking when Miller is running routes? Bottom line: What are they going to do with Spaeth, Tuman, and Miller? Faneca will be auditioning for a new job (unfortunately), so the prediction of his play will be a mystery this year. He still is tops in the league at pulling, but his pass protection is declining. Marvel Smith needs another repeat performance at LT.

#2) Anthony Smith (3 damn 'Smiths' in the starting lineup is a bit much - especially two 'A. Smith's.'😉 will be the key in the secondary. First things first. Will Tomlin release Troy to roam around and do as he pleases? By keeping LeBeau, there's possibility that the zone blitz will remain intact. I have suspicions they may be heading towards a 4-3 for the first time since 1982, maybe in 2008. If that happens, Troy's play level will be restricted but Hampton's will rise. Now back to Anthony Smith. He is a playmaker, but alot is going to be asked of him this year. I think he is heads and shoulders above Ryan Clark, so this will be his year to make an impact. I'd like to see him maintain that aggressive demeanor he seems to possess. In the past, Steeler safeties have been anything but that. Remember Flowers, Shields, & Hope? They were excellent tacklers but rarely made a play on the ball. As far as the corners, McFadden is on the rise and Townsend will fit nicely in the nickel & dime packages. Everyone's question is, what the hell is Ike going to do? Is he going to bring his Denver 2005 game or his Denver 2006 game? Hopefully, these 2 new LB's (Timmons & Woodley) will add the pass rush that was lacking a bit last year and make the guys in the secondary better...'cause they need it.

If these two areas can straighten themselves out, I think they will be okay.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
😄 How can the Steelers get back to the superbowl?

Ummm, I think I like my analysis better. For starters, it makes sense. Try again in another thread. Preferably one that's not the Comic Book Versus thread. Should have known! Hmm, let's see, I think there's a volleyball thread in this forum somewhere. It's a good bar viewing sport. You know, look up when something happens, look back down. If you need help finding it, I'll be more than happy to assist you.

The Steelers, in my opinion are not going to make the playoffs. It's the AFC.

Maybe, in two years, but not this year. Unless Big Ben plays absouletly amazing. That defense lost some key guys and Timmons (from what I read isnt the answer), but I'll pass judgement until the seasons gets on its way.

Woodley will be better than Timmons. Timmons is undersized. Woodley reminds me of Harrison who, fittingly enough, he will be backing up. Fierce, bursting rush, especially on third downs and passing downs.

There were also 52 other guys screwing it up in addition to Ben. He gets all the sportscenter (low)light reels because he is the QB. The botched punt returns, the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, and constantly getting burned on end zone fade routes were equally as bad as the interceptions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
its simple they dont. they were one of the worst sb champoion teams i have ever seen, the refs took away the seahawks chances that year. it was sad. the refs werent going to screw the steelers over after the colts game that year in the playoffs. jerome bettis was a smart man retiring and he knew it was a fluke.

This is so true.

You can say what you want about the pathetic performances from both teams in Superbowl XL. No argument there, but you can't deny that the Steelers didn't deserve to be in the game. They handled three high-caliber AFC teams in their home stadiums to get there. There were no "Music City Miracles," as I recall. Just ass kickings.

Damn, that last post was my 10,000th post here at KMC and didn't realize it.

Originally posted by botankus
You can say what you want about the pathetic performances from both teams in Superbowl XL. No argument there, but you can't deny that the Steelers didn't deserve to be in the game. They handled three high-caliber AFC teams in their home stadiums to get there. There were no "Music City Miracles," as I recall. Just ass kickings.

Originally posted by botankus
You can say what you want about the pathetic performances from both teams in Superbowl XL. No argument there, but you can't deny that the Steelers didn't deserve to be in the game. They handled three high-caliber AFC teams in their home stadiums to get there. There were no "Music City Miracles," as I recall. Just ass kickings.

without getting back into this too much I will say I agree with you on that.

Originally posted by botankus
You can say what you want about the pathetic performances from both teams in Superbowl XL. No argument there, but you can't deny that the Steelers didn't deserve to be in the game. They handled three high-caliber AFC teams in their home stadiums to get there. There were no "Music City Miracles," as I recall. Just ass kickings.

I believe that the Steelers werent the best team that year, but I cant say they suck because hey, they won the Superbowl. I think it was one of those cases on where the team played very well in all aspects of the game and played it well enough for 4 games. Congrats to them.

I would say the same thing about the Colts last year. Somehow, that defense played 4 great games during an year of shit.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I believe that the Steelers werent the best team that year, but I cant say they suck because hey, they won the Superbowl. I think it was one of those cases on where the team played very well in all aspects of the game and played it well enough for 4 games. Congrats to them.

I would say the same thing about the Colts last year. Somehow, that defense played 4 great games during an year of shit.