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Who would the Vikings trade to get Fitzgereld, McNabb, or Chad Johnson?

I cant think of anybody who warrents that type of player.

I usually see trade rumors in the NFL as shit because you rarely see a team make a huge trade like that. It might happen, but I cant see it.

Roland, I understand what your saying but Anderson (first year starting) had a good year and warrents another look. I would be pissed if they traded him for a draft pick that might not pan out, and especially if its for the defense because if you dont have an QB, teams usually dont win.

Quinn might not do anything and if you get rid of Anderson for Quinn and he doesnt pan out, your screwed. You can always get vetern help for the defense in free agency. Your example of the 49ers is weak because well, anybody can play against the 49ers.

Originally posted by Röland
I am happy they had a 10 win season, but our D needs help badly and if a team is willing to give us draft picks for Anderson, I say trade him. Yes no one knows if Quinn is going to be a success or a bust, but why give up what you gave for Quinn, then send him packing because Anderson had a career year?

I'm all for giving Quinn a shot, we have the components on offense to help him out, so why not see what we could get for Anderson? I don't think Anderson sucks, but I don't think he is going to be a great QB like the media is making him out to be.

Quinn didn't play more than one series of downs the whole year, but when he got in against the 49ers he took the offense down the field. Winslow dropped a TD pass and Edwards dropped a TD pass but the offense seemed energized just by having him in there.

If we don't shop Anderson then I say have an open QB competition during the pre-season, I wouldn't just proclaim Anderson as the starter.

Take Anderson, by mid-season you will be pulling your hair out at some of the decisions he makes. I'd be impressed if the Vikings were able to bring in Johnson/Fitzgerald through trades. I'm not so sure that McNabb will be released by the Eagles, but you never know.

Why not Anderson won 10 games and yes he frakked up against the Bengals but thats no excuse to trade him and give Brady Quinn a shot when he really do much when he played this past sunday.

I totally agree.

He won 10 games in the AFC and with a bad defense (from what you said)

He had bad games but so has Romo, but I'm not going to trade him away for a pick in this years draft (for QB) because of that. Same thing happened last year, he had a great season, won alot of games but he had a few bad ones too.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Roland, I understand what your saying but Anderson (first year starting) had a good year and warrents another look. I would be pissed if they traded him for a draft pick that might not pan out, and especially if its for the defense because if you dont have an QB, teams usually dont win.

Quinn might not do anything and if you get rid of Anderson for Quinn and he doesnt pan out, your screwed. You can alwys get vetern help for the defense in free agency. Your example of the 49ers is weak because well, anybody can play against the 49ers.

I see your point Smasandian, I just look at the situation as this. Savage traded with the Cowboys in order to get Quinn, I think Quinn was a top 10 pick and the Fins were stupid to pass him up, so if Anderson didn't do what he did this year Quinn would have been starting by week 8.

I agree with you about the 49ers, I was just pointing out that Quinn had a successful drive against them but then when Anderson came back in the game he threw an easy INT against the same defense. It's not so much that I think Anderson is a bad QB, he just makes bad reads and throws the ball where he shouldn't a lot of times. He could fix that since he's young but that is sometimes hard for a QB to do.

Yeah, we could be screwed if we let Anderson go, but for what we gave up for Quinn I say we take the chance. Or if we don't trade him now, see how they both do in the pre-season against starting defenses then make a decision.

Originally posted by JediSamuraiMRB
Why not Anderson won 10 games and yes he frakked up against the Bengals but thats no excuse to trade him and give Brady Quinn a shot when he really do much when he played this past sunday.

If I came off as saying Anderson should be traded solely because of the Bengals game I didn't mean to come off that way, every QB has bad games as Smas pointed out, but all Anderson had to do was take care of the ball for 4 quarters and he didn't. We should have easily rolled over the Bengals and be playing the Chargers this Sunday.

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In all honesty (this is just my opinion) from what I've seen, Anderson's CONS outweigh his PROS. I just don't think he will pan out to be nothing more than an average QB in the NFL.

If Anderson does get traded. excels and Quinn ends up being a bust then I'll eat crow and say I was wrong. I just have a feeling that Quinn has the tools to be a great QB, while Anderson does not. (again, just my opinion)

I just dont understand what you want from the guy. First year as a starter and he wins you 10 games, throws 29 TD's and similiar amount of INT's that Tony Romo threw, 3800 yards and has a great rapport with Winslow and Edwards.

And to give him up for Brady Quinn who has completed 3 passes in his career out of 8 attempts. It's crazy dude.

Again, give him another year, all Browns fans should give him that considering he has won you 10 games this year. If he continues on the same path, then they can decided what to do with him, but I definitly thinks a horrible deal to trade him away for a draft pick. If you have a guy who wins you 10 games, you keep him, especially considering alot of top 10 pick QB's turn out to be average.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I just dont understand what you want from the guy. First year as a starter and he wins you 10 games, throws 29 TD's and similiar amount of INT's that Tony Romo threw, 3800 yards and has a great rapport with Winslow and Edwards.

And to give him up for Brady Quinn who has completed 3 passes in his career out of 8 attempts. It's crazy dude.

Again, give him another year, all Browns fans should give him that considering he has won you 10 games this year. If he continues on the same path, then they can decided what to do with him, but I definitly thinks a horrible deal to trade him away for a draft pick. If you have a guy who wins you 10 games, you keep him, especially considering alot of top 10 pick QB's turn out to be average.

I'm not trying to take away from what Anderson did this past year, I just don't think he is the long term solution for the Browns.

If he stays for next season and he puts up the same numbers, then I'll admit I was wrong in a heartbeat, but I'm not ready to proclaim him as the Browns franchise QB because of one year.

I'm not trying to proclaim Quinn as the franchise QB either. We'll just have to see what happens, I guess.

Originally posted by Röland

Take Anderson, by mid-season you will be pulling your hair out at some of the decisions he makes. I'd be impressed if the Vikings were able to bring in Johnson/Fitzgerald through trades. I'm not so sure that McNabb will be released by the Eagles, but you never know.

Anderson's mistakes will be nowhere as bad as T-Jacks. Seriously, have you watched T-Jack play? He should be having a field day with the 8 in the box against Peterson, but she still can't even do good against that.

And they didn't say who the Vikes would offer but I'm assuming Chestor Taylor and our first round pick.

Originally posted by DanZeke25
Anderson's mistakes will be nowhere as bad as T-Jacks. Seriously, have you watched T-Jack play? He should be having a field day with the 8 in the box against Peterson, but she still can't even do good against that.

And they didn't say who the Vikes would offer but I'm assuming Chestor Taylor and our first round pick.

I only saw Jackson when the Vikings played on MNF/SNF, I forget what night it was, Anderson may be better than Jackson but he still makes too many small mistakes. He is too inconsistent, one throw is spot on and the next is into triple coverage or he misses an easy dump off pass that he should be making. Anderson got a lot of help from Winslow, Edwards and Joe J this year, it also was nice he had Jamal Lewis run for over 1300 yards.

Hmmm, do you think the Bengals would bite at that bait? Maybe Jackson just needs an experienced WR to help him out.

I don't want to turn the whole thread into a "DA vs Me" thread, so I just wanna say that whether the Browns trade DA or keep him, I will be neutral on either decision. I would just rather see them get some draft picks for him then keep him and have him possibly be a one-hit wonder. srug

Originally posted by Röland
I only saw Jackson when the Vikings played on MNF/SNF, I forget what night it was, Anderson may be better than Jackson but he still makes too many small mistakes. He is too inconsistent, one throw is spot on and the next is into triple coverage or he misses an easy dump off pass that he should be making. Anderson got a lot of help from Winslow, Edwards and Joe J this year, it also was nice he had Jamal Lewis run for over 1300 yards.

Hmmm, do you think the Bengals would bite at that bait? Maybe Jackson just needs an experienced WR to help him out.

I don't want to turn the whole thread into a "DA vs Me" thread, so I just wanna say that whether the Browns trade DA or keep him, I will be neutral on either decision. I would just rather see them get some draft picks for him then keep him and have him possibly be a one-hit wonder. srug

I think the Bengals might give him up but no matter who you have as your WR, you need a good QB. A great WR makes a good QB great. A great WR makes a crappy QB just as crappy.

Well the Bungles defense should be better next year.Carson Palmer got smart and asked for some changes to be made and one of the changes they made was a very smart one,the best one they COULD have made getting rid of defensive coordinater Chuck Bresnahan.I remember when he was with the Raiders the Raiders offense would have to try and score on practically every series in many games because their defense was so horrible.They had good players they just had horrible defensive schemes because Bresnahan is an idiot.There was one year they had the highest scoring offense in the league and they still could not make the superbowl that year.

The Raiders got to the superbowl that year despite Bresnahans horrible defenses schemes.Kinda like how John Elway got the Broncos to their last two superbowl victorys.Many Bronco fans felt he got them there despite their defensive coordinater Greg Robinson.I was stunned and shocked when I learned the Bengals were stupid enough to hire Bresnahan.I remember thinking back then-Theire going to be sorry,they'll find out soon enough they made a mistake.Looks like they are just now learning that.wonder what team will be thext idiot to sign him up as their defensive coordinater.

Well now we gotta wait until the NFC Champioship for the Cowboys to be eliminated because IMO theres no way the Bucs or the Giants beat them. But the Bucs have a better chance so GO BUCS!

And Seattle moves on. People got a glimpse tonight of what Seattle's D has done to people all season, shut them down. Hasselbeck had one of his worst games in a while, but still pulled through when it counted. I think his wrist might be bothering him more than he lets on, and punching alexanders helmet early in the game prolly did not help. I just cant wait for when we have Branch/Hackett/Engram/Burelson all healthy in the same game.

Dallas might not even get by the Bucs/Giants the way their offense has been playing. T.O. prolly wont be back until the Super Bowl.

i really hope Dallas loses because that gives Seattle/GB winner home field for the Championship game.

Jaguars just won. Good game.

Nice comeback by the steelers though. Hopefully it is a sign of great football to come.

Good game... Jag's almost blew it.

Phantom Holding calls, tons of uncalled illegal block and holds on the part of the Jags, the Steelers straight up sucking, and the fact that the Steelers tried running Naje to the outside is what cost the Steelers the game.

It's a shame, but I'm not all that surprised, this is not the Steelers team that I know and love. Seriously. Our halfback weighs, like 200 pounds, we have a passing game, our offensive line sucks, our Defense has no run protection, and lackluster pass protection.

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The only thing that these Steelers have that my beloved teams of yonder also had is terrible special teams.

But seriously, I don't know what Tomlin did to this team, but it obviously wasn't good.

I'm sorry but that Hines Ward pass interference on 4th down in the endzone was kinda of bullshit.

No way in hell that the CB did pass interference on him, it was more like offensive pass interference. Not a very good call.

I give Tomlin credit actually, the team was losing alot in the 4th and they almost won the game. I was very surprised.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I'm sorry but that Hines Ward pass interference on 4th down in the endzone was kinda of bullshit.

No way in hell that the CB did pass interference on him, it was more like offensive pass interference. Not a very good call.

I give Tomlin credit actually, the team was losing alot in the 4th and they almost won the game. I was very surprised.

And Tomlin didn't do much of anything that anyone watching the game couldn't have figured out. Opening drive, teh Steelers scored using short passes. We tried running, and long passes, and we got ****ed over. So we reverted to short passes to Hines and Heith. And dolt could figure that out.