Yoda disarmed Sidius in sabre combat? I did not see that in the movie.... 😖
Well, I did mention that Yoda would beat all 3 in a force battle. But in epi 2, Dooku puts up a good fight against Yoda. I'm sure that if it lasted longer if Dooku didn't have to dash to save the weapon plans for Sidius, I think he would have slayed Yoda. Remember, Dooku is like the master of form ii combat which is designed specifically for sabre combat 🙂
Either Yoda or Sidious ultimately win this. In in all out battle, either of them would likely be able to overcome Mace or Dooku. Then, of course, they'd duke it out. Ultimately, I personally think that Yoda would win - but that is, of course, just my opinion, as nothing indicates he would win.
Chris, Yoda disarms Sidious in the script. Though the movie never shows this, it is "possible" that it happened during the footage we never saw.
Originally posted by Chris_Henners
Yoda disarmed Sidius in sabre combat? I did not see that in the movie.... 😖Well, I did mention that Yoda would beat all 3 in a force battle. But in epi 2, Dooku puts up a good fight against Yoda. I'm sure that if it lasted longer if Dooku didn't have to dash to save the weapon plans for Sidius, I think he would have slayed Yoda. Remember, Dooku is like the master of form ii combat which is designed specifically for sabre combat 🙂
Yoda disarmed Sidious in the novel, and even in the movie he doesn't have a lightsaber for 1/2 the fight....
Um...no, Dooku ran twice, even when he had the high ground. (During the clone wars). Dooku was beaten 2 times, it was not because of the plans, it was because he was loosing.
They are all roughly the same in skill and power, most people agree on this. The instruction manual for KOTOR2 states that not only Makashi, but Juyo as well is 'very great' against lightsaber wielding opponents. Vaapad is an extended and 'completed' form of Juyo and is stated as the deadliest form which leads me to believe that it is superior to Makashi in terms of saber dueling. It is also good against multiple opponents while Ataru is poor and Makashi is fair. Bare in mind that my knowledge of SW is pretty limited and my opinions are only based on 2 sources - the movies and the instruction manual for KOTOR2.
BTW, when in the manual it says 'the force' under combat situation, does it mean defending against the force or utilising the force with your duels?
Originally posted by Apollo5Cloud
They are all roughly the same in skill and power, most people agree on this. The instruction manual for KOTOR2 states that not only Makashi, but Juyo as well is 'very great' against lightsaber wielding opponents. Vaapad is an extended and 'completed' form of Juyo and is stated as the deadliest form which leads me to believe that it is superior to Makashi in terms of saber dueling. It is also good against multiple opponents while Ataru is poor and Makashi is fair. Bare in mind that my knowledge of SW is pretty limited and my opinions are only based on 2 sources - the movies and the instruction manual for KOTOR2.BTW, when in the manual it says 'the force' under combat situation, does it mean defending against the force or utilising the force with your duels?
Ataru might be "poor" against multiple opponents, but Yoda is almost untouchable with a lightsaber. I dont think any of them will successfully land a deadly blow upon him.
Plus, they wont engage in a 1v1v1v1 free for all. I see it as a tournament. 2v2 and victors fight each other to the death.
Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Ok...but you are right. Ataru is great defensively as well as offensively.
Ataru sucks at defence which is mentioned several times in the EU...
Not that it matter since Yoda was able to dodge three Jedi attacking him with lightsabers at once in Shadow Hunter effortless and it seemed as if he wasn't even moving much. Sheer force mastery.
Yoda wins this...
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I haven't read the novel so I would not know what is written in the story form... But, I don't think it really matters if Sidious had lightsabre or not for the second half of the duel - he was on high ground force throwing senate pods thingies at yoda. Why need lightsabre for that? Sidious had to bail out when Yoda returned a pod as he didn't have the time to dodge/duck or think about what to do. Then when he sees yoda come about, he force lightning to disarm Yoda. Yoda seems to only have the offensive power to reflect one's power against them, that's if he like gets ready quick enough. The first force lightning against him he not have time to get ready
I'll leave you to it with the Yoda vs Dooku sabre 🙂
Originally posted by Borbarad
Ataru sucks at defence which is mentioned several times in the EU...Not that it matter since Yoda was able to dodge three Jedi attacking him with lightsabers at once in Shadow Hunter effortless and it seemed as if he wasn't even moving much. Sheer force mastery.
Yoda wins this...
Not when Yoda uses it. One would argue it's because of his force mastery, but Yoda has proved unbeatable in a lightsaber duel, both on the defensive and offensive perspective.