Originally posted by TacDavey
1. No he wasn't. He was just hanging there. He wasn't flailing his legs, or anything.2. His home town allowed him to realize his full potential, or whatever. It's pretty simple really. If the developers had wanted Cloud to not be able to do that, they wouldn't have had him do it. They had him do it, thus they obviously wanted Cloud to be able to do it.
He wasn't just grabbing the Masamune to get off the stab, he was also trying to retaliate while Sephiroth was lifting him. Yes, also shaking his legs. And that's still ignoring the fact that Cloud didn't do anything at all, simply because he couldn't, rather than 'he hasn't tried'.
So Cloud couldn't pass through a guy, he didn't, thus he can't... No, wait, that's PIS, just like his hometown 'miraculously' allowing him to retaliate and Sephiroth not killing him when he easily could. Never mind the fact that he could have put his hand off the sword when was being lifted and Cloud would have fallen inside the Reactor... 😬
Originally posted by TacDavey
4. No, my point responds to that. Tifa goes with Cloud in FF7. The team fights big monsters in FF7. Thus, Tifa has fought big monsters in FF7. If they had her have trouble in AC it was either because the monsters where stronger than the others (which I doubt), she had lost some of her abilities, or, in the change from game to movie, there are inconsistencies that the developers disregarded. My bet is on the last one.5. Or before hand, and didn't jump until he noticed Zell was in trouble. You can't make the claim you know when Squall showed up or started that jump, because you don't. End of story. He comes in off screen from an unspecified location. You have no idea how long he had been there or when he started the jump. All you see is the end of the jump. That's it. You cannot make claims like that with no evidence.
It was the developers having some fun and making the game more interesting. Not the same as point 2.
Why would you argue he isn't on par with Genesis?
A group of 9 people with Materia, Summons and weaponry does that... and it depends on HOW they fought each of those monsters. I don't recall Tifa punching giant monsters to death, do you? Nor demolishing them to the ground with her fists. She may hurt some monsters wolves, or some smaller ones, but that's it. As far as FFVII is concerned, Tifa has zero feats (If you disregard AC which is actually the only thing we know about her after all). Your point?
Huh? Sir, Stop weird stuff. Squall wasn't there yet when Zell was escaping from the G-Soldiers and guards, he was in another room with Quistis and Selphie. The logical conclusion is that he showed up in time, 1 second later and Zell would have been shot. It's a logical reasoning. Deal with it.
I loled. It's PIS, plot hole, or plot point, call it whatever you like, it's just as ridiculous as point 2 and it applies to both. Just by a 'funny' scene they ignored logic and everything else and made Cloud dress as a woman when he could have punched a guy in the face. Just as Tifa and Scarlet scene, Tifa could have punched Scarlet in the face, RIGHT? But she didn't. Yeah, Squall would have passed through that shitty hotel in seconds, much faster than Cloud could even imagine. Cloud isn't as fast as Squall. And stop talking about every developer from every game as you would know everything from them.
Because Genesis was on par with Pre-Nibelheim Sephiroth. Is stated. Cloud can't even beat an holding back Seph. And using Zack to justify Cloud 'cause he has no feats in his game is really pathetic, if I recall correctly Zack outside Crisis Core has zero feats as well.