Cloud vs Squall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUGbLV7okvw&NR=1
Squall wins this...
Superboy beat me to it, but notonly surviving, but creating a way out of Time Compression, thats a monsterous feat to have when you have nothing but your own strength of will.
Defeating Omega isn't any small feat either.
Or commanding an entire flying fortress filled with SeeD soldiers at the very young age of 17...
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroWasn't the way to resist time compression by the power of friendship? If I recall that's pretty much what Laguna said(what a homo). Defeating Omega may or may not be canon, and really we have no way to judge what he is capable of, all we know is gameplay wise he is the hardest boss in the game.
Squall wins this...Superboy beat me to it, but notonly surviving, but creating a way out of Time Compression, thats a monsterous feat to have when you have nothing but your own strength of will.
Defeating Omega isn't any small feat either.
Or commanding an entire flying fortress filled with SeeD soldiers at the very young age of 17...
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wasn't the way to resist time compression by the power of friendship? If I recall that's pretty much what Laguna said(what a homo). Defeating Omega may or may not be canon, and really we have no way to judge what he is capable of, all we know is gameplay wise he is the hardest boss in the game.
*Reloads battle rifle and aims with the scope at V2D's head* You will never call Laguna that, ok?
Well I guess its my turn to add something to this XD!
Well people overlook so many things when it comes to Cloud. I see some of you just say that Squall became captain of SeeD at the age of 17 and Cloud is just a Soldier. Seriously? Seriously...? Come on people... SeeD didn't really have much guys that could put up a fight. In Clouds case, he just started out and had to match up againts, Sephiroth, Angeal, Genesis, Zack, and ect.
In truth, Squall had a good portion of his life to train, while Cloud only began to really practice after Zacks death, and in a short amount of time, he became extrordinarily strong. I also heard someone say about how Yazuu, Loz, and Kadaj put up a fight for Cloud. If I recall he had Geostigma on his left arm that bothered him and reduced his strength. In the end he still beat Yazuu and Loz. After Aerith healed the disease, Cloud easily destroyed Kadaj with out much effort.
People are also pointing out Cloud and Squalls emotions. It is even stated Squall appears more Cold then cloud. Cloud wasn't as bad as Squall, but became more depressed as his best friend "Zack", and love "Aerith" both died. You can't disagree that if Rinoa had died in the game, that Squall would have been in a lot more worse of a condition than cloud. Especially since Squall was much more untrustworthing to others, so having the person that made him start believing in others and die infront of him would obviously make him twice the emo cloud is.
Again, why do you think FFVII got more Games and a Movie? Or was the only one to get the most Games and Movie and even a OVA? Its simple, Final Fantasy 7 left so much to be desired. It made us wonder about Zack, Aerith, Sephiroth. It even made us wonder about Vincent's life, and what happened after they won in the game. In Final Fantasy 8, it was just that. I had no questions in the game, it was straight forward. Happy Ending and it never made me really wonder about what happened before the game or after it.
I also see people comparing there damage in the games. Seriously, it does not really matter what the damage is. In each FF game, there was a limit to the Damage and some even had more then the 9999 hit limit. Comparing the FFX games to the FFVII-FFVIII, it seems Tidus would pwn them all. In reality Tidus would get beaten senselly to a pulp, or at least put up a fight before getting beaten to a pulp. It is not a smart idea by pitting them againts each other by how they move in a game, but imagine what they could do in an actual battle.
If you look at an actual battle and how Cloud and Squall are, they will obviously end up in a tie. Even if Cloud is a super enhanced soldier and can survive a SuperNova attack that blows up pluto, and goes through Jupiter and then destroys the Sun from an attack by Sephiroth... <_<... I believe Squall would be on par with Cloud. For a normal human, he is surprisingly strong.
Now Judging from Omnislash vs Renzokuken, You can't judge them by how long they did it in the game. If they were to meet, and their attacks collided, It would be more probable that the both of them would continue on attacking until one gives in. Chances are both of them would stop, agree it would be a pointless battle, say that the other is an amazing warrior, and just settle in a tie.
SO... CLOUD = SQUAL
THEY BOTH OWN THE FF WORLD
hrm. i dont know, their strongest attacks are just about equal, omnislash as well as lionheart are practically the same move. in terms of strength, well, cloud has jenova cells almost perfectly fused, but then squall has griever living inside his dreams and can harness any guardian force. but id have to say leon on the fact that the final villian, ultimecia was easily ending the whoel world as opposed to bizaaro sephiroth, who might or might nto have been a threat to all existance. i like em both.
I don't see why KH is being thrown out as reliable source. People are acting as if final fantasy is an anime turned game. It's a game made by sony, so is KH. Though they canon differences, the character abilities and personalities in KH fit perfectly. People just have a problem with KH because it doesn't have their favourate character as the strongest. They don't like the fact that Sora is actually a powerhouse. So they ignore all other powerhouses in RPG games so that cloud can be the strongest one there is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8402dhK7S_M
After Dissedia which Cloud has shown zero existence to be in it should be safe to Say Squall pwns seeing as he is going head to head against Sephiroth with a smirk on his face.
Originally posted by Csdabest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8402dhK7S_M
After Dissedia which Cloud has shown zero existence to be in it should be safe to Say Squall pwns seeing as he is going head to head against Sephiroth with a smirk on his face.
Actually all we really see is Sephiroth parrying off all of Squalls attacks in the beginning, then while they're running we don't really see, could be Sephiroh just parrying off more of Squalls attacks, and its Sephiroth with a smirk on his face
Originally posted by Terryc250
Actually all we really see is Sephiroth parrying off all of Squalls attacks in the beginning, then while they're running we don't really see, could be Sephiroh just parrying off more of Squalls attacks, and its Sephiroth with a smirk on his face
Yes Thats in the begining. When they are running up the hill you see them going head to head clashing swords. For all you know Squall could be parring Sephiroth. And If you look at Squall facial expression he is smirking as well.