Cloud vs Squall

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Seeing as Dissidia is noncanon, what you posted has no relevance in this fight.

Yet we can use Disney........Also what makes you think its non-canon >_>.............It IS made by square enix directly from the company.

It would almost be stating that Final Fantasy AC isnt canon

Originally posted by Csdabest
Yet we can use Disney........Also what makes you think its non-canon >_>.............It IS made by square enix directly from the company.

It would almost be stating that Final Fantasy AC isnt canon

What makes me think it is noncanon? How about the fact that it takes heroes and villains from several of the FF universes and puts them in one game? 😬

Going by that, Capcom Fighting Evolution, Marvel vs. Capcom, and Kingdom Hearts is canon.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Kingdom Hearts is not canon either.

What makes me think it is noncanon? How about the fact that it takes heroes and villains from several of the FF universes and puts them in one game? 😬

Going by that, Capcom Fighting Evolution, Marvel vs. Capcom, and Kingdom Hearts is canon.

Capcom Fighting Evolution Is not Soley from Capcom and from a third party company with rights for the characters.
Marvel vs. Capcom, prdocution by both Marvel and Capcom companies with the companies reciving rights to use the characters. Kingdom hearts same thing just Disney and Square enix is involv.ed

Final Fantasy dissedia is directly from Square Enix and the final Fantasy Crew

Man, tuff choice. Cloud has more showings, since he's been in movies. But Squall has faced a stronger villian and has a superior weapon (gunblade) compared to Clouds; I give the edge to Squall.

Squall for reasons already stated.

I think it's time a put up my sheild, here comes the stones.

Perhaps, if we regard solely RPG game mechanics then Squall winning could happen, but what besides that tells Squall is of Cloud's level? Cloud is more beyond human than Squall, judging from what both were shown doing.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Capcom Fighting Evolution Is not Soley from Capcom and from a third party company with rights for the characters.
Marvel vs. Capcom, prdocution by both Marvel and Capcom companies with the companies reciving rights to use the characters. Kingdom hearts same thing just Disney and Square enix is involv.ed

Final Fantasy dissedia is directly from Square Enix and the final Fantasy Crew

Originally posted by Csdabest
Capcom Fighting Evolution Is not Soley from Capcom and from a third party company with rights for the characters.
Marvel vs. Capcom, prdocution by both Marvel and Capcom companies with the companies reciving rights to use the characters. Kingdom hearts same thing just Disney and Square enix is involv.ed

Final Fantasy dissedia is directly from Square Enix and the final Fantasy Crew

I guess the Streetfighter animes(all of them) are canon now...

Like he said, as long as they're separate universes, they are different. They are just alike.

Originally posted by Csdabest
Yes Thats in the begining. When they are running up the hill you see them going head to head clashing swords. For all you know Squall could be parring Sephiroth. And If you look at Squall facial expression he is smirking as well.

Very unlikely, we only see Squall going all out attacking Sephiroth, while Sephiroth parrys off his attacks.

And I don't know where you're seeing Squall "smirking", from the HQ trailer I'm watching, looks like Squall is like grunting from using force

Sephiroth is the one with the smirk..

Originally posted by Csdabest
Capcom Fighting Evolution Is not Soley from Capcom and from a third party company with rights for the characters.
Marvel vs. Capcom, prdocution by both Marvel and Capcom companies with the companies reciving rights to use the characters. Kingdom hearts same thing just Disney and Square enix is involv.ed

Final Fantasy dissedia is directly from Square Enix and the final Fantasy Crew

No, Dissidia is not canon to FF7, FF8, or any of the FF storyline or character story or background story, it is a spinoff, just like how Cloud/Aeris/etc were featured in FF tactics, but were not canon to FF7 itself, or how Capcom produced different SF anime's that were not actually canon to the actual SF plot.

In my opinion they are equals. Only reason Cloud is superior is because he has a shitload of feats that come from 5 times the exposure Squall has.

I can't wait to see what Squall will be up to in this game.

Since it's noncanon, he could throw a planet into some black hole in the middle of the universe and cause a big bang, it still won't count towards FFVIII Squall.

Fine by me. I just want to see him do some shit with updated technology. It is about fkn time other ff chars get the spotlight.

True. Squall is much better than Cloud anyway.

Cloud for 4 years was all emo about his life and Aeris' death. Which is why he fails and doesn't deserve the spotlight.

Squall actually made some progress with his emo-ness, and is no longer an emo.

LoL.

Zidane is cool too.

Man...they better put Zack, or Cid in the game.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
True. Squall is much better than Cloud anyway.

Cloud for 4 years was all emo about his life and Aeris' death. Which is why he fails and doesn't deserve the spotlight.

Squall actually made some progress with his emo-ness, and is no longer an emo.

That is why I dislike Advent Children eventhough the CGI was awesome and the fighting spectacular. It crapped all over Cloud's character development.

Dude, it's a Final Fantasy game, some variation of Cid will be in the game, be it the foul mouthed spearman, the old ass headmaster, the annoying as hell tiny bug, or the bald guy who pilots an airship(Though every Cid seems to have an airship lol).

Can you really picture Squall with his gunblade flying around chopping up huge columns of buildings like Cloud was?

And Squall did have a cgi fight =P

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Originally posted by Terryc250
Can you really picture Squall with his gunblade flying around chopping up huge columns of buildings like Cloud was?

Sure, why not. It is only fiction. I never pictured Cloud almost flying around while fighting Sephiroth either, but hey it happened.

Yeah, Cloud was never really impressive til AC came out, what with its really good graphics and stuff.