Marka Ragnos vs Shimrra, DN Luke and Exar Kun

Started by Xepeyon22 pages

No Sith like eachother. And all Sith Masters were respected by their apprentices, relationship had nothing to do with it. Naturally, no apprentices would like eachother. As Kriea said in KOTOR II: "...But to be united by hatred, is a fragile alliance at best... " Do you think Sion and Nihilus were the best of buddies? Of course not!

Originally posted by tdtd
First of all, if you read about Ragnos, you'd see that he was HATED because he was a half breed which the Sith considered an abomination, which speaks volumes for his power of being hated and respected, so you have no point. Sadow was planning on becoming the next DLOTS but in the sith idealogy, Sadow would challenge Ragnos when he felt he was strong enough, and it was obvously neither Sadow nor KRessh could compare to Ragnos even on his death bed.. DE Luke bowed to the Emperor, what's your point? DE Sidious>DE Luke.

Yes, too bad he dident get that chance because Ragnos died. Whats your proof that they couldent even compare to him on his death bed? Because they zomG! bowed to him? Ridiculous.

Yes and DE Luke a few years later was able to defeat Sidious. So I could argue that IF Ragnos was still alive, and Sadow dident have to worry about Kressh he could challenge him to a duel. Only after he became powerful enough.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Naga was a hybrid, too...proof Ragnos was hated due to his half-breed status?

Yes and he gained more supporters then Ludo did. So whats your point TdTd.

Originally posted by Xepeyon
I can't belive I'm saying this, but, agreeing with tdtd's point, Darth Bane's "Rule of Two", wasn't established until thousands of years later. One of the main reasons was so that there would only be TWO with power, one to have it the other to crave it, so more than one couldn't team up and kill the master, as shown in KOTOR II. Ragnos had to of had power of incredible magnatude, seeing as neither Sadow nor Kressh belived thay could defeat him. Rest assured, if teaming up was what it took to defeat Ragnos, they would have done it. However they didn't.

A lot of people agree with me, few have the balls to actually type it, as if it's a bad thing since this forum is allergic to logic.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Yes, too bad he dident get that chance because Ragnos died. Whats your proof that they couldent even compare to him on his death bed? Because they zomG! bowed to him? Ridiculous.

Yes and DE Luke a few years later was able to defeat Sidious. So I could argue that IF Ragnos was still alive, and Sadow dident have to worry about Kressh he could challenge him to a duel. Only after he became powerful enough.

Actually it's very logical, to you who doesn't use logic it's ridiculous. If Ragnos was still alive he would have lived unchallenged, you can't argue shit because we have facts... He died of old age which was unheard of in the sith empire.. And Lightsnake, wikipedia Ragnos, he was a half breed and the sith hated half breeds because they were an abomination. Good job arguing with facts, tool.

Because Wiki is canon? Marka was a half breed, almost all the Sith Lords were halfbreeds, so what? Naga was, too and Ragnos even said they'd interbred with the Sith, Naga even had minimal Sith blood! How would the Sith lords hate half breeds when they were all descended from half breeds or breeds themselves? Where was it EVER said they saw half breeds as abominations?

The Sith ruling castes were descendants of the Dark Jedi

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Because Wiki is canon? Marka was a half breed, almost all the Sith Lords were halfbreeds, so what? Naga was, too and Ragnos even said they'd interbred with the Sith, Naga even had minimal Sith blood! How would the Sith lords hate half breeds when they were all descended from half breeds or breeds themselves? Where was it EVER said they saw half breeds as abominations?

The Sith ruling castes were descendants of the Dark Jedi

Difference between sith lords being half breeds and their leader being a half breed, try again. Naga was pure sith, part of a pure sith brotherhood. Try again..

No, Naga talks about his ancestors were great Jedi, to quote the character guide: "His bloodline was one of the purest, containing minimal Sith blood."
Wiki? Sith/human hybrid? Ludo's bloodline was described as 'watered down' when his ancestors interbred with the Sith completely. And, in the comic another Sith Lord says the bloodline is strong with Naga, wow.

Where's this proof of abomination bull?

And why would their leader being a half breed matter AT ALL if they're all half breeds?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
No, Naga talks about his ancestors were great Jedi, to quote the character guide: "His bloodline was one of the purest, containing minimal Sith blood."
Wiki? Sith/human hybrid? Ludo's bloodline was described as 'watered down' when his ancestors interbred with the Sith completely. And, in the comic another Sith Lord says the bloodline is strong with Naga, wow.

Where's this proof of abomination bull?

And why would their leader being a half breed matter AT ALL if they're all half breeds?

Where are you getting your nonsense? Who ever said they were all half breeds? Btw... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Sadow

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Naga_Sadow
The Character Guide
Golden Age of the Sith
Thank you, come again.

Uh GAOTS says he is of pure sith blood and part of a sith priesthood.. Since when does one wikipedia take precedent over the other.. Try again

No, the comic states Ludo is a full blooded Sith while Naga still bears true Jedi blood

Except he is part of a pure sith priesthood

Right, except the comic...and the Character guide both say otherwise.

Where in the comic does it ever say pure Sith priesthood? Your god Marka says he bears True Jedi Blood, pal

huh

Originally posted by tdtd
Actually it's very logical, to you who doesn't use logic it's ridiculous. If Ragnos was still alive he would have lived unchallenged, you can't argue shit because we have facts... He died of old age which was unheard of in the sith empire.. And Lightsnake, wikipedia Ragnos, he was a half breed and the sith hated half breeds because they were an abomination. Good job arguing with facts, tool.
You still have no proof that Ragnos is the most powerful of all in history, and that he is unchallenged by anyone.

Eh? If either Sadow or Kressh or anyone else could have seized power, they would have.

He was unmatched in his Empire. A fairly good one, too.

Originally posted by Razielim
Eh? If either Sadow or Kressh or anyone else could have seized power, they would have.

He was unmatched in his Empire. A fairly good one, too.


No they were to busy fighting each other to challange Ragnos...

Both wanted the title of DLOTS, but they had each other to worry about and niether of them wanted the other to get the title, so its obvious they dident fight Ragnos for possesion. Plus, Master is always stronger than his apprentice. Wether he was better than both apprentices though cant be determained. Both bowed too him because both Siths were apprentices of Marka. They respected him as a great DLOTS, but nothing indicates both of them combined are unmatched against Ragnos. Hell they even respected Simus, and the guy was a floating head on a table.

Originally posted by Jonathan Mark
No they were to busy fighting each other to challange Ragnos...

Damn you posted faster than me! 😕